yea I agree with him, my mate (Johny) use the Hope pro 2, and he says its well smoother to clena and ride, than the King cause you first buy a king you have to clean out the thick lube and put in thiner stuff, and he says the pro 2 doesnt hardly skippy as much as the King, and that the Kings body of hub is to soft a metal, cause he surly sprocket cut in to the king hub. Mikey!