UCI Trial

Danny - just enter, then you can see them for your self.

Fred's loaned me his log on, as signing up as new boy doesn't give me access. As I work for British Cycling, I thought you'd like to hear it from me. There's some obvious mistrust in the trials community, but you're no different from any other sport. You've only got to look at Cricket, we perform piss poor and suddenly the selectors have got it wrong and questions are asked about misplaced allegiance. You guys are passionate about your sport and I’m not going to belittle you, as I also understand your passion. For the sake of your sport, please stop the allegations. If there are older riders who are respected within the Trials community, I suggest you get your ass on to the Bike Trails committee and work with those guys behind the scenes. It may be the only way trust can be gained. Internet gobshites often don’t realize the damage they do. We are all pretty much media lead and most of the younger riders will believe what they read, even some of the older riders think forums are gospel. What I’m trying to say is be careful with accusations and get yourself on the inside. You’ll soon change your attitude or realize you are not up to the task of making decisions based on the information available. To the point now. I made the selection based on a list of around 24 (or there about) names. These 24 names were put in an order of merit which was backed up by the names listed earlier in this thread. Riders were classified, but I wasn’t able to select the best 10 as I had asked the committee for. The trials committee also found the task hard to supply such a small list of names. I made the decision to select extra riders as the committee felt they couldn’t narrow to 10 or as it appears a selection of the committee who were best placed to make an informed decision couldn’t provide narrow it down. I know some riders will find this hard if they’ve been left out, but sport’s tough and decisions have to be made. Rightly in some eyes and maybe not in others, but it’s all above board. I’ve enjoyed dealing with trials riders so far, but the bullshit politics are doing you no favours. Join together or recognize the ones who are doing the sport harm and ignore them. Call me if you wish to gain clarification. 0161 274 2022, back in on Friday. Roger Wilbraham

Firstly a comment for Bob, I meant that what had gone before your post was shit stirring by some……………………………………………………………………… Sorry John, but much of what you say is inaccurate. You have not spoken to Mrs. Wright about this matter. I was approached and asked if the committee would choose the team, NO ONE in their right mind would put their name to that, it ceased to be a committee decision as I declined and no one from the committee took any decisions. I did however offer to help, along with those named in your post to assist B.C. by bringing the news of the event to U.K. Trials riders, offering them an address to send their applications to etc. The applications were checked for accuracy, most were, although some underage applicants applied. Riders were placed into their respective groups and the information passed on. Performance in BIU events and UCI events came into play, dependant on what the applicant submitted; both records of results will have been considered. Your grievance appears to revolve around the exclusion of Rob. I would rather not personalise this, however, all competitive results are available, I suggest you do a comparison. Do the exercise yourself, there is no more room on the team, who would you leave out? It’s a difficult one and that is why B.C. drew the line under the level of competitive achievement, and not B.T.U.K. - thus deciding who would be selected. I stress BRITISH CYCLING. British Cycling chose who would and who would not be riding. I spoke with Roger Wilbraham this afternoon, curiously he was unobtainable on Monday and Tuesday, but some how you managed to get through. Roger intends to issue a statement regarding selection; he said that he would not have time to do so immediately. British cycling are now watching this thread. I drew it to their attention as I did, and do not approve of the veiled insults directed at a group of individuals who have done nothing more than help an organisation by collecting forms and providing records when requested. If you think that the situation has been handled “disgracefull” direct your comments to those that dealt finally with the applications, not the “Postman”. Fred Savage.

So far I’ve resisted the temptation to reply to what some one has called, (not me), shit stirring. I feel its time to get some facts out in the open before wrong opinions are formed. Before you read what’s written below please read my posts in this thread, it sets the flavour. http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....showtopic=87347 Just like to piont out wain that there hase never been i uci trial at fort william, the scotish one day trial, was described as a trial with a uci flavour. and let me tell you it was a very mild flavour. proper uci world sections are very different than those set in fort bill before. i hope for the events sake that there are other sites at the venue with bigger obsticles, because i visit the area every year, i have for about the last 10 years, and i dont think there is anything hard enuf there. The competitions run in F.W.so far have been aimed at the club rider. What point would there be in slaughtering a large percentage of the entry by putting them over obstacles that were beyond their ability. Rob, we had riders like you in mind, you rode the event and as I remember thoroughly enjoyed it. remember , the sections need t be able to take marks off the best riders in the world, im sure the likes of kenny, vince, comas , carlos dieaz etc will be disapionted. The company promoting the World Championships have allocated a healthy budget to section building. UCI top brass have inspected the site and approved the decision to run the Trials competition there. Why on earth would anyone build an event that was not worthy of those attending? also the way that all 2006 results were taken into consideration for the selection is rediculas. knowing that the uci world's were coming to britain, and knowing that every other country in the world makes there team selection based on the uci world ranking. i got off my ass and entered as many uci world cup's/comps as i could to get a ranking. to use results from a different disapline to make the selection just dosent make sense. Not every one can afford to travel to World cups. It’s true to say that a good Trials riders achieve good results regardless of the rules UCI or BIU, (Vincent, Kenny, Comas, Benito etc), the same names fill the top places, therefore a riders BIU achievements can indicate their potential as a UCI competitor. i wached some of the riders selected at tykes at the weekend and fiarplay they finished in high positions, but on the other hand, they didnt seem to be able to travel more than 4 feet forward without putting a pedal down, be it for a breather or to correct thier balance. I have to ask, why not stop, it’s allowed. the top and bottom of it is that in this country we dont have a national uci championship. so the selection has been handed over to a few members of the bike trial uk comitee. the most fair way to have done it was to decide after the 2007 world cup,s they are all before september and anyone who wanted to could ride. British cycling wanted to make their selection early so as Trials riders had the chance to find accommodation. Other teams from other disciplines have accommodation provided, so it would not be an issue for them. I know for a fact that some hotels were fully booked in January 2006, so I support their actions. basically the whole thing has been a farce and if this lack of knoledge/ organisation and coruptness carries on into the actual event then it will be a shame for the sport, and the promosion of the sport in this country. If you are implying that members of the BikeTrial U.K. committee have been either ignorant or corrupt I suggest you apologise. If I have misunderstood your implications please correct me. I have seen what happens when corruption and a misplaced sense of authority and self importance takes hold – events get cancelled. I would not allow myself to apply personal feelings to a sporting selection process, or work with those that sought to do so, that territory is for others. think i have said what i wanted to to say, before the insults start i know i am not the most litterate of the forum users. and im not just moaning because im not picked, its my opinion about the whole thing rob No insults from me Rob, I’m sorry for you, just as I am sorry for the other riders that have not made the cut. B.C’s original intention was to select a team of 10; it proved impossible as when the true results and potential of those that applied were studied many were so similar that one could not be selected over another. It could be that B.C. should have selected one rider of their choice for each category that would have caused a stir. Other nations, including the French have fielded very small teams in the past. The 2007 British team is possibly one of the largest national teams officially fielded at a UCI World Championships. The only role that BikeTrial committee members played was to make the entry invitations available to as many applicants as possible, collect the applications, place them in their respective classes and forward them on to B.C. for the selection process to take place. If you do not believe me telephone the individual that gave J. Oakley the riding list and ask them, if you do please have the decency to post your findings on the forum. Fred Savage.

" been thinking about this today, and is says some where in the post to only apply if you can make it to the final," What was said was "show potential". Thats the best BC can ask for, considering the level of riding.

Moved or did not hold a comp licence in 06? Want to apply - Download your application form from BikeTrial U.K. web site.

Especially on a Sunday.

Read Barbara's post John (on behalf of BTUK) - forms for all. For the record, I was surprised when I heard that the number of entries would be restricted, but I understand the thinking behind it. British Cycling, (B.C.), want to field a team worthy of the event. B.C. will pick the team from those that apply; forms will be available very soon. As they have little knowledge of the true skill and potential of many of our competitive Trials riders they have asked those with the necessary experience to help. As assumed the team will consist of only TEN competitors in total. The team will be expected to pay their own travel and accommodation expenses. Only those that can demonstrate the potential to reach the final in their class should apply. As said before, the Team will be picked on merit alone; it makes no difference if you have attended a World Cup, unless you have enjoyed some success there. To clear up some confusion; Junior's for 2007 - born in 89, 90, or 91. Ladies, no Semi final, just one event. I spent weekend in Fort William recently, discussing the potential for both man made and natural sections. The event is already taking shape; a new Four Cross track has been constructed. Those of you familiar with the venue will be pleased to hear that large areas of the rocky stream bed that were inaccessible have been opened up by the building of a new road. The man made section locations, and the materials that will be used to build them has already been decided. Fred Savage.

2007 UCI TRIALS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 3rd – 9th SEPTEMBER. In September 2007, Fort William, Scotland will host the UCI Trials World Championships. British Cycling has asked BikeTrial U.K. to assist them with team selection. All those that contested National or International events during 2006 will be invited by post to apply for a place on the British Trials Team. Classes are; Junior 20” Elite 20” Junior 26” Elite 26” Ladies 20 and 26” combined. Selection will be made by British Cycling, purely on merit. A team consisting of approximately ten members in total will be selected to contest the various classes. BikeTrial U.K. will be contacting regular National competitors by post, together with a download facility via their web site. Fred Savage.

Sorry to say that due to situations beyond control the Trials event has been cancelled. Those that entered will receive an entry refund. The main event will still run, those wishing to visit/camp may still do so.

Pick option 2. Close Welshpool & Oswestry.

The closing date for the Trial is 1st post 7th of July, if you wait until then the entry will be full. I know it does not say that on the entry form, but it will be changed. On the other hand why does it take 8 days to enter - just do it now! We will need observers, they will be paid £25 for their trouble, so bring a friend, they can camp for free as well. Classes will eventually be the same as the Fort William event, you can check the results to see who does what. Sorry about closing date/class confusion. It will be sorted.

A mixture.

Tried to put this up in the news area along with other posts, but news seems to have stopped working. Admin, move it when you can please. Date – 14, 15 and 16th July. Venue – Moelfre Mid Wales. Event – UCI British Championships. Disciplines – Cross Country – Downhill – Four Cross – Trials. Camping – Free from Thursday, food and facilities on site. Entry form – Download from Fat Face National Championships No licence or club membership required. The team that organises the highly successful Trials held at the Fort William World Cup have been invited to run a competition in conjunction with the UCI British Championships. The Trial will not carry championship status; we will be there thanks to generous sponsorship provided by FATFACE. In addition to normal Trials activity we have been asked to supply a flood lit spectacle close to the Four Cross finish line, we anticipate holding a Step Up comp or similar. This is potentially very exciting as the whole event will be covered by the BBC and other media. It’s our chance to show mainstream cyclists what we can do; the event will attract over 1000 competitors, not counting Trials. Entries will fill up quickly, so get downloading for your chance to enjoy a good weekend with free camping plus a comp.

Date – 14, 15 and 16th July. Venue – Moelfre, Mid Wales. Event – UCI British Championships Disciplines – Cross Country – Downhill – Four Cross and Trials. Free camping for competitors from Thursday lunch time. Food and facilities on site Licence and club membership not required. Download your entry form from www.npsdownhill.co.uk Coming?