Alex.loves.boys Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 hey, im tring out some monty pr bars as there the same geo as ti's and there just lay ther ein ym shed.i like them and that but are they strong?i dont want to kill myself... so yehayone broke any?im asuming there as strong if not stronger then the ti ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Wilson Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 They were fine for me good bars nice rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 ive got em if ur talkin bout the ones that are 23quid on tarty, feel sooooo nice, but i havnt had them long enough to tell you there strenght, imagine there fine though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Viz series 700 are same geo, Just a touch wider. I love them feel very nice. I personally could co any narrower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 hey, im tring out some monty pr bars as there the same geo as ti's and there just lay ther ein ym shed.i like them and that but are they strong?i dont want to kill myself... so yehayone broke any?im asuming there as strong if not stronger then the ti ones...Sort it out man, for Gods sake. Take a minute or two, you're barely legible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Owen. Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Just wacked a set i had lying around on my echo! Rides the balls on short mod, absolutely loving them! Sorry i can tell you if they are strong or not, as im not exactly a big rider so wont really test their strength too much. Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Smith Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 well i weigh 19.6 stone and mine feel the dogs danglies they dont flex at all compaired to my old 07 zoo bars they are SOLID! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 (edited) Viz series 700 are same geo, Just a touch wider. I love them feel very nice. I personally could co any narrowerSurely not?Aren't they like the old Zoo bars? Montys have much more rise and backsweep than old Zoos.edit: to answer the question - the 6061 Monty bars are much thicker and heavier than the 7075 ones. I'd guess that the thicker tubing gives the bars similar strength to the Ti's? Edited March 27, 2008 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Smith Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Surely not?Aren't they like the old Zoo bars? Montys have much more rise and backsweep than old Zoos.edit: to answer the question - the 6061 Monty bars are much thicker and heavier than the 7075 ones. I'd guess that the thicker tubing gives the bars similar strength to the Ti's?its the viz max bars that have the same geo as old zoos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Surely not?Aren't they like the old Zoo bars? Montys have much more rise and backsweep than old Zoos.edit: to answer the question - the 6061 Monty bars are much thicker and heavier than the 7075 ones. I'd guess that the thicker tubing gives the bars similar strength to the Ti's?Correct me if im wrong but viz bars are now the same geo as the new style zoo bars. And older style zoos were not the same as montys they had less rise and different sweep. Viz bars never had the same rise as montys.im getting some of the pr bars tomoro as i need some and cant wait for some new bars that are comeing to the market i need some now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 hey, im tring out some monty pr bars as there the same geo as ti's and there just lay ther ein ym shed.i like them and that but are they strong?i dont want to kill myself... so yehayone broke any?im asuming there as strong if not stronger then the ti ones...I've had both, and sorry but they are completely different, the TIs are much less extreme, they have less rise, less back sweep and less up sweep.I much prefer the TIs, with the PRs it made it much harder to control the front wheel when I was hooking, as it seemed to want to flap to the side.But, to answer the question, I reckon they'd be stronger, they certainly seem stiffer and I think they are a bit heavier, so there is more metal there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I've had both, and sorry but they are completely different, the TIs are much less extreme, they have less rise, less back sweep and less up sweep.Really now...http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=2164andhttp://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=2103Less back and upsweep you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I've had both, and sorry but they are completely different, the TIs are much less extreme, they have less rise, less back sweep and less up sweep.I much prefer the TIs, with the PRs it made it much harder to control the front wheel when I was hooking, as it seemed to want to flap to the side.But, to answer the question, I reckon they'd be stronger, they certainly seem stiffer and I think they are a bit heavier, so there is more metal there.you may have had a old set as far as im aware all monty bars are the same geo now, just pr's are double butted, ti's are triple and lighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 you may have had a old set as far as im aware all monty bars are the same geo now, just pr's are double butted, ti's are triple and lighterThe PR bars I had were 07s, and the TIs I have are 07s, they may have changed them for 2008, but they rode completely differently.Really now...http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=2164andhttp://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=2103Less back and upsweep you say?Those are both examples of bars I have never owned. And the topic is about 221PR bars, not 219. Yes I do say, because I had them on two seperate bikes and I was riding both bikes at the same time for a few weeks, they are very, very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 if they make you angle one way, there most likely bent lol.Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 The PR bars I had were 07s, and the TIs I have are 07s, they may have changed them for 2008, but they rode completely differently.Those are both examples of bars I have never owned. And the topic is about 221PR bars, not 219. Yes I do say, because I had them on two seperate bikes and I was riding both bikes at the same time for a few weeks, they are very, very different.But the 219 and 221pr bars are exactly the same. And if anyshould be the same as ti's it should be the pr's not the 219 as the 221pr is the more expensive bike.Im sure adam could post the answer up if he knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) I bought my PR bars from my mate, he had taken off his 2007 221PR and replaced them with Zoo bars. I used them on my 06 Echo for a good few months.I then bought my 07 Echo, and it had 2007 TI bars in White, and for a month I had both bikes and rode both of them frequently, just because I could.The PR bars felt much more extreme to the TI ones, like they had more of a rise, more up sweep and more back sweep.It was only a few weeks ago, 3/4 at the most so I'm pretty certain.Here is a pic, it's kinda shite, but you can sort of see that the bend on the PRs are steeper than the TIs.Anyway, I could be wrong, it might all be to do with the different stems, but I run the TI stem with a load of stacks underneath so I doubt it would make a huge difference.EDIT: This is all just my opinion and speculation and stuff, it could all have just been the different stems, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't. Anyway it doesn't matter, as long as you like them matey, keep using them until you grow old. Edited March 28, 2008 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) Just been on phone to tarty to order some as i need some put me on bars. And they are supose to be the same but they arnt, they have more backsweep and less up sweep i think. so muel was rightAnd the viz bars that someone said about are the sameish just tad wider.Still good bars though and will be reasonably strong. Edited March 28, 2008 by basher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Just been on phone to tarty to order some as i need some put me on bars. And they are supose to be the same but they arnt, they have more backsweep and less up sweep i think. so muel was rightAnd the viz bars that someone said about are the sameish just tad wider.Still good bars though and will be reasonably strong.That sounds about right, but I used to run them tipped foward so all the sweep was facing upwards.They were excellent bars for the price I paid for them, they would have been a lot nicer had I changed the stem for a lower/shorter one, but I didn't get round to it before getting me new bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.loves.boys Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Sort it out man, for Gods sake. Take a minute or two, you're barely legible.what the f**k are you on aboutand i changed back to zoos nowi rode wth them today and there just to short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 PR's, old ZOO's and Ti's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 I fukin' love you inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 I wish I had remembered that pic before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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