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Hs33 Or Disc Brake


pete trials

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A front disc tends to give you a bit more modulation which can help when your doing moves onto the front wheel whereas a maggie tends to be on or off. But a disc weighs more than a magura does and a magura is easier to adjust on the move so there's pro's and con's with each setup.

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Disk brakes for comps, because if you have to go through something wet your rim brake basically has no chance.

I haven't used dual disk personally, but that seems to be most peoples idea and mine too, because if your rim gets wet with a hs33 it will not work that well. (or as well as a disk would when wet)

I use front disk and rear hs33, I do comps and street, seems to be fine for me at the moment.

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  • 2 weeks later...

magura pros:

Light

good selection of pads

good bite

good to modify (eg, grind rims, longer lever blade etc)

no spoke flex

Magura cons:

loud as f**k, can't slow the bike down without making a racket

not very good modulation (no stoppies then)

buckled wheel stops play

need to deflate tyre to remove wheel

not as good in the wet

forks arn't as strong

more maintenance (grind rims, replacing pads etc)

Disk pros:

good modulation

good bite

quiet

good in the wet

forks are stronger

can take wheel out with the tyre inflated

buckled wheels don't matter (as long as it goes through the forks)

maintenace is minimal

Disk cons:

heavier

can catch the rotor and bend it

spoke flex

not as instant bite as a magura

My choice would be disk, I just hate loud brakes

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My bike came with Hs33's front and rear and i wasn't impressed at all. (due to the HS33's standard black pads). I bought myself some heatsink Yellow pads for the rear, and what a transformation!

I have had discs on my older bikes, and they have great feel and modulation. So i would tend to agree with the majority here. Disc front and HS33's with new pads for the back!

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I have to be the gravedigger on this one.

I am just wondering. On my 24'' I ran dual Saints and especially on the rear it was an awesome brake (until it broke) so I had to go back to rear HS33 (Racing Line lever to Magura slaves in my case) and I don't really like it.

With a light grind on my Trialtech SL rim neither the Trialtech pads (in CNC backings) nor Familybiker's pads (that perform equally in the dry) have as much power than my disc had. When locking the rear with the disc, it was LOCKED. With the rim brake it almost always slips a little and in the wet I can't even rock the bike w/o the brake slipping a little.

Now I set up the pads perfectly square to the rim and I believe that the grind is also well made, plus frame flex is almost non existent with the Trialtech booster. Still, the brake doesn't come near a disc brake even in dry conditions.

When looking at videos of stock riders, they do seem to have hold in the worst conditions so I'm asking myself what I am doing wrong. Could it be that my technique as a beginner is just shite and therefore the brake can't cope with my 85kg or what is it?

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i had the same problem as you exactly. because i have the same rim. its because of the angled sidewalls. but the only pad that works are adms cnc backings. i just wanted to try them and i didnt even bother with a grind so im running them on a dead grind. best pads ive ever used. sounds better than most of my mates who have parrall side walls

btw and this goes to any pad you have to allow a few hours/minutes bedding in time because of the sidewalls

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btw and this goes to any pad you have to allow a few hours/minutes bedding in time because of the sidewalls

Well the pads have been running for quite a while so they should've bedded in by now. The pads I currently run are loud as f**k but hold isn't really there, same with the Trialtech pads. I don't think it has to do with the angled sidewalls really. As soon as the pads are bedded in, they touch the rim equally or am I mistaken?

I'm probably not gonna bother with ADMs right now as I'm gonna put pack the disc on the rear soon.

Maybe it's the trialtech rims that are kinda shite. I remember using Trialtech pads on an Echo TR rim and they were very good even when soaked.

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