Andeee Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 2 weeks from new??? Did you let it bed in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted November 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yup 2 week from new. It had been bedded in fine. Its not mine its a friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Jesus! Is he a big rider, ride brakeless etc or anything out of the ordinary? Just curious so I make sure it doesn't happen to me lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Just what you want t see when you have just moved from a pro 2 to a SL Must just be a one of or he landed on it allot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 I've done this to one, and 2 friends have done the same. Still, its the best freewheel out so no point worrying about it or saying its shit, its about the most highly stressed part on a bike so any imperfection in the metal will cause it to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam n Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Probably just a bad one (or he could have landed on it several times), I've broken 2 inners and one outer ring but about 9 months each, incredible free wheels and the only ones I trust. If he bought it from a good shop I'm sure they'd replace it under guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 I've had 2 Echo TR 15T sprockets go, one in less than a week, then one in about 5 minutes of putting it on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials owns Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 I have just bought one Should be all good though, There wont be faulty batches will there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryallmaster Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Certainly don't make them liked they (Echo) used too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) I was reminded last night that my mate Gaz had one of the silver ones do this last summer (2011). He believes (as do me and another riding mate) that when echo changed the design my machining out that bit of metal to convert 8 prongs into 4 prongs on the center, that they are now weak and have never been the same since. (center bodies splitting now seems routine with SL's) As for the outer teeth splitting into quarters, I expect that from dicta's and welded ACS claws. I thought things had moved on over the last couple of years?? Edited November 27, 2012 by CC12345678910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 They have - but manufacturing and materials defects can happen (like with anything), which is what the warranty is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials owns Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 They have - but manufacturing and materials defects can happen (like with anything), which is what the warranty is for. How longs the warranty for bud? I cant use mine till christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 They have - but manufacturing and materials defects can happen (like with anything), which is what the warranty is for. Of course. To Adam (or TB person using Adam's account) What would happen if this happened twice in a row like it did to my aforementioned friend?? I presume you would only warranty once and the customer would be left outta pocket? I mean, you couldn't keep replacing freewheels surely? that's not sustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAMPIRE V12 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Of course. To Adam (or TB person using Adam's account) What would happen if this happened twice in a row like it did to my aforementioned friend?? I presume you would only warranty once and the customer would be left outta pocket? I mean, you couldn't keep replacing freewheels surely? that's not sustainable. Unless they send it back to echo them selves who send out a free replacment..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 To Adam (or TB person using Adam's account) What would happen if this happened twice in a row like it did to my aforementioned friend?? I presume you would only warranty once and the customer would be left outta pocket? I mean, you couldn't keep replacing freewheels surely? that's not sustainable. We would look at each case upon it's own merit, but most likely it would be replaced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Also take into account that most people running a ffw are probably running an SL. I'd be interested to know what percentage of tarty's ffw sales are SL's and how the failure rate compares to other ffw's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Of course. To Adam (or TB person using Adam's account) What would happen if this happened twice in a row like it did to my aforementioned friend?? I presume you would only warranty once and the customer would be left outta pocket? I mean, you couldn't keep replacing freewheels surely? that's not sustainable. We would look at each case upon it's own merit, but most likely it would be replaced. Tartybikes replaced one of my TR sprockets with another which went again pretty much straight away, they then replaced it with a Try-All sprocket which was slightly more expensive and seems to be lasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Also take into account that most people running a ffw are probably running an SL. I'd be interested to know what percentage of tarty's ffw sales are SL's and how the failure rate compares to other ffw's. I Think and dont quote me on this, but i remeber seeing a failure rate of something like 3 in 1000 or 3000 for one of their batches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Q Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 That sucks, and I hope it gets sorted, but I think things like this happen with anything, it appears certain things get over engineered and some weakness do present them selfs. Abit different but I work in theatres for the NHS helping with surgical procedures, and the equipment we use is expensive, over engineered and we get faulty batches, which you wouldnt expect but does happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Dear Mr Deng Please stop making parts and frames with the wrong materials. Regards Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Dear Mr Deng Please stop making parts and frames with the wrong materials. Regards Andrew Could you quantify / back that up in any way? Echo's email address is on their website for feedback, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Deng Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Dear Mr Deng Please stop making parts and frames with the wrong materials. Regards Andrew Dear Andrew, I assure you a great thought and design goes into every Echo component, including material selection. As you see on our website we do extensive stress analysis on our component designs but any manufacturing process mistakes can happen, often out of our hands. In trial there is no right or wrong material as sport is always changing. We see carbon fibres used now and are looking into both plastic and ceramic materials for all components for future. I hope this one failure of Echo freewheel does not put you off our products in future. Best, Mr Deng 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Well that seems pretty concise. Maybe Mr Deng would be interested to see your final designs for the indestructible Andeee-freeeeewheeeeeel? Could go on a joint venture maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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