ItsAllGravy Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) so far i like Ozonys King Of Dunce Inspired Element inspired fourplay. what are the differences between the fourplay and element 24? anyone got experiance with a king of dance? ive pretty much ruled out a zoot now i think... Edited June 28, 2013 by ItsAllGravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 The fourplay has disc/hs33 mounts and the element has vee mounts, Small changes in geo too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 My zoot has been fine. I'm thinking of upgrading to the zoot pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllGravy Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) i think i could probably snap the chainstays on a zoot on purpose from the research i done over the last few days and the shear number of reports of failed chainstay yokes around... i dont want a frame im scared to try something on... i think a couple of long pegless double pegs (chain stay grinds) and a zoot would be done for... what about the king of dunce, belaey and the Triboulat bro's are obviously riding em, the geo looks ok considering all i have to go on is my knowledge of what i like in bmx and 26er as far a geo go's its a bit guess work but merrrr anyone got anything bad to say about the dunces??? oh what is short for 24"er chain stays? like slammed with a 2.3 how long would chain stay length be? oh and how much are Because street frames? if you can get them? i couldn't find a price around? what are they like if you can get them? Edited June 28, 2013 by ItsAllGravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 For under £400 I'd advise 3 letters, J A F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllGravy Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 yh ive thought about it but i came to the conclusion if i dont know what i want geo wise how will they... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Are there no streety riders near you who's bikes you could have a try on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllGravy Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) all my mates who ride these days ride 26" dirt or trail fr/dh bikes or bmx... main reason i put trials to one side was more mates did everything else... if it was a dirt frame you np pretty much any thing turns up at lymo trails but trials n street bike... not so much... Edited June 28, 2013 by ItsAllGravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 You could just copy the foreplay geo if your not sure. The elements are great frames though. Should last you a year + easy. Didn't you buy that Zoot while you were injured Chandler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Ah right, if you can it might be worth hanging on until the new steel Inspired frame comes out. No idea on the price of it yet but I've only heard amazing things about it, the same frame Ali and Mark are riding in this vid which should show you what it's capable of and 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolasp1405 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Unfortunatly the new steel frames wont be available before 2014 so you might want to consider something before that... I would recomend you the fourplay, its worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 i think i could probably snap the chainstays on a zoot on purpose from the research i done over the last few days and the shear number of reports of failed chainstay yokes around... i dont want a frame im scared to try something on... i think a couple of long pegless double pegs (chain stay grinds) and a zoot would be done for... what about the king of dunce, belaey and the Triboulat bro's are obviously riding em, the geo looks ok considering all i have to go on is my knowledge of what i like in bmx and 26er as far a geo go's its a bit guess work but merrrr anyone got anything bad to say about the dunces??? oh what is short for 24"er chain stays? like slammed with a 2.3 how long would chain stay length be? oh and how much are Because street frames? if you can get them? i couldn't find a price around? what are they like if you can get them? Grinding on any aluminum chainstays would be bad. I'd get jaf to make a steel version of the frame you like if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_SPAWN Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Get some carbon on the stays! mmm carbon. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllGravy Posted June 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) dont do seat less... id ride a seatless mod maybe but i thought they where for kids when i was 17 now ten years on after years of BMX i could dig a mod but anything bigger needs a seat, i know how many times my seat hits my nuts sod that being a tube... f*** carbon... how many times Ti is better, but i'm not about to pay for a Ti frame.... yeah i had thought that that way ive had a idea about a drop out mod thats simple as hell to do and would basically be a steel block to lock onto rails... its not like i sold my bmx i wouldnt be going out with the intention of riding a rail session on a 24 but if i was miles away from home one bike never gone see the rail again and it was like the perfect rail, hell yh... Edited June 29, 2013 by ItsAllGravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 dont do seat less... id ride a seatless mod maybe but i thought they where for kids when i was 17 now ten years on after years of BMX i could dig a mod but anything bigger needs a seat, i know how many times my seat hits my nuts sod that being a tube... f*** carbon... how many times Ti is better, but i'm not about to pay for a Ti frame.... yeah i had thought that that way ive had a idea about a drop out mod thats simple as hell to do and would basically be a steel block to lock onto rails... its not like i sold my bmx i wouldnt be going out with the intention of riding a rail session on a 24 but if i was miles away from home one bike never gone see the rail again and it was like the perfect rail, hell yh... Nowt wrong with wanting a seat. A custom frame would be perfect for meeting all your requirements. The thing you said about fitting a block on your chainstay for grinds would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 You could just copy the foreplay geo if your not sure. The elements are great frames though. Should last you a year + easy. Didn't you buy that Zoot while you were injured Chandler? Yes mate, but I can semi ride again now, and it still feels fairly solid to me. Admittedly its not as stiff as my old fourplay, but then again it's a quarter of the price. Can't complain so far dude. But I'm not a heavy rider, and don't tend to brake things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 My zoot has been fine. I'm thinking of upgrading to the zoot pro I believe Dale is selling his! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Yeah, it's me who is having it when I have the cash together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Be the 1st to have a jaf mod with a seat. A lot like those ti mods I saw at blackpool comps last year. I think triton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) http://tritonbikes.com/old-school-style-trialsbmx-triton-on-trials-forum/ Edited June 30, 2013 by dezmtber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllGravy Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) oh thats pretty... :$ i just re watched the inspired vid and realised the steel 24 has got a seat and i duno how i thought that seatless mod was a 24... hmmm Edited June 30, 2013 by ItsAllGravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picowatt Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I never saw the pic of the Mod with a seat before. I like it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 On the subject of frames, checkout this creation from JAF Bikes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 If im being honest im shocked my 2010 zoot is still in one piece-Not even a crack! its been through 3 people too- Ive bashed out a few meaty drops and drop gaps on it too Im Going to get another -when it dies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 sorry, but jaf or marino would get my money. zoots ive heard bad things about quality, and inspireds may well be excellent, but are certainly expencive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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