Jake. Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Right, I went to the Alps last year. Used superstar pads and went through a set every day or two of the holiday all the way to the metal. Using superstar rotors too. Now, I'm going to the Alps again this year... I'm on a Giant Glory Team '02 this time round, my Dad will be on a Giant Reign '06. Last year we used hayes brakes on the glory, Avid Elixrs on the Giant Trance 29er, we both found the braking OK but the brakes would be pulling to lever by the end of most days, and the stopping power wasn't amazing (remember, superstar pads and rotors). We want to be better equipped this time round, at the moment we have the option of those above brakes, Rear hope mini, front Hope tech x2 and Saint M810s. Wanted to get an idea of what rotors and pads would be best? Been told nukeproof trail/dh pads but no idea what to do with rotors. And no idea if we should put hopes on the reign or glory (remember I'll be on the glory and I'll most likely be a bit more "mad" so I'm not sure if I want better brakes or worse brakes which means I can go quicker as there's less stopping power ). Advice would be appreciated. TLDR; I have a set of hopes and a set of saints, which pads/rotors do I use? And which bikes should the brakes go on? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Saint m810s no question. Goodridge sintered pads for the win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Saint m810s no question. Goodridge sintered pads for the win I'll stick those on the glory then? And put hopes on the reign (all mountain)? Cheers. Any idea what rotors? Genuinely wonder if having the more expensive pads will last longer, I'll stick with the superstars if they're gonna last just as long. I'd rather pay double and have pads that can last at least 3 days ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercofray Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Saint m810s no question. Goodridge sintered pads for the win For DH? Have you tried them? I thought sintered glazed over when they have excessive heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 That's what I had in mine when I had them, admittedly they came off an inspired but that's what I'd recommend for longevity. Sintered are made for high heat applications, they won't glaze over. They are marketed as a downhill padAnd get ice tech rotors as well. Best there is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercofray Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Oh fair enough, my bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since1949 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Every summer, I go one week to Vallnord, and with a pair of Hopes M4 (non tech lever, but not the old calipers), with braided hoses and goodridge sintered pads, and perfect, the brakes were always there. A friend also have the Saint brakes with braided hoses (think that he has EBC pads) and the same, always OK, no problem at all. Get some second hand Saints they´re cheap, easy to fix and really good brakes, simply put some new mineral oil on them, and perfect! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since1949 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I asked my friend, his pads were the EBC red, but the wear of them is really fast. I forget to say, i was using Hope saw rotor (no floating), and he had Shimano XT (the old ones) The only possible solution... no braking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I have saints. Just trying to decide what bike to stick them on. Think they're going on the Glory since it's 18kg and could do with the bit more stopping power. Sintered pads are meant to be shit at braking though arent they?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 No way. Mine had sintered pads, and it was like riding into a brick wall, such was the brutality. They were ridiculous. Ask some of the street lads though, quite a few of them use saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 DH vs Street is quite different though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Buy a couple pairs of each, try them, pick ones that work best and return un opened pack on return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercofray Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 DH vs Street is quite different though? That was my point.. Haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 No way. Mine had sintered pads, and it was like riding into a brick wall, such was the brutality. They were ridiculous. Ask some of the street lads though, quite a few of them use saints Organic pads have more initial power and let you down later on in the downhill ride. For sintered it's the other way round. More heat = more braking power (up to a certain point). For trials the best pads are organics as there is no heat whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I have found sintered to be better all round than organic on my SLXs, regardless of using genuine Shimano or Superstars (superstars being better than Shimanos in my experience!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I always thought organics worked better from lower temperatures, weren't so good with dealing with heat build up and wore out relatively. And sintered had better heat and wear characteristics, dealt with crappy conditions better; but can have a habit of squealing when wet. For DH i'd always go with sintered, especially in this country with our fantastic weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 My brakes also squeal less with sintered completely the opposite to what is supposed to happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilf Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) 6Ti's with 225mm rotors. They'll murder Saints anyday. Edited April 8, 2014 by wilf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Thought I'd post feedback. I've given the saints a couple of runs on mini dh, organic pads. They're performing amazing, feels like there's more modulation than the hopes I ran on them, and stops much nicer too. Can anyone suggest ways to upgrade the bike? Was maybe looking at new forks/frame. But would rather abuse these first lol. Cheaper upgrades anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I always thought organics worked better from lower temperatures, weren't so good with dealing with heat build up and wore out relatively. And sintered had better heat and wear characteristics, dealt with crappy conditions better; but can have a habit of squealing when wet. For DH i'd always go with sintered, especially in this country with our fantastic weather. Exactly what I said and many many downhill riders have experienced. Organic pads aren't for downhill rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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