Perez Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Dont know if this is true, or it was Monty´s April Fools joke! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 at least make it the same colour, it looks discusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janjan Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Here are some infos: http://www.trialinside.com/retour-de-monty-sur-le-devant-de-la-scene-trial/ There is also a 26" version coming: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 surely tubes would be lighter/stiffer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I think the triangulation of a set of tubes allows would be stiffer but only down to a certain frame size. Once the standover is so small you're better off with one big section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alle.C Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Looks cool to me. Rough style with raw material.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Interesting appears that the drive side "chainstay" and front end are one piece and the non-drive side is welded to it. Shame they still haven't done anything interesting with the dropouts, the flat plate they always use just looks cheap and doesn't really fit with the top end of the market they seem to want to compete in. WIll they have a silly high price like most of their previous products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Suppose driveside makes the most sence to run with to reduce flex on the power side? If that makes sence. Looks awful either way. I really really dislike it to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 To me its the livery that makes it look pants, can't say I dislike the design. How does it compare weight wise to more conventional frames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetecmk2 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 the san andreas of the trials world....love it! i may be bias here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 too scootery for my liking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 WIll they have a silly high price like most of their previous products. Bearing in mind they thought the previous 221 was worth over £500, in that this is a lot more 'tech' I can't really see it being particularly cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Bearing in mind they thought the previous 221 was worth over £500, in that this is a lot more 'tech' I can't really see it being particularly cheap. Yeah so as the carbon version sells for about 1500 quid for a frameset this will probably be about £900.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Yeah, but Spanish 'comp dads' will still buy them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Apparently Giacomo coustellier is testing the 26" prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 It's already been in testing for a few years, but this is the first time it's been seen in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trialsalot Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Giacomo looks different in that pic....I think he's waxed his mono-brow. On a serious note, I cant help but think its more a gimmick. I think unless its carbon it's just going to weigh the same or more than say a conventional tubed frame. If you do away with hydroforming and use butted tubing in someway shape or form you can save weight too. I might just be a complete dinosaur here but I'll eagerly await the official weigh so I can compare it to say a Rockman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I thouhht the same initially, but then I guess the strength/weight ratio comparison will be the decider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Can speculate that it might not be lighter than a Rockman or a Limey 4, but i bet it'll be lighter than 99% of the other frames Monty have come out with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm not saying you shouldn't consider it at all - if it's what's important to you then fair enough - but I can't help but feel you guys concentrate on weight too much.Wouldn't you rather have a frame the same weight as rivals that lasts long enough for you to choose to change from, rather than one that's tried to be too light and you HAVE to change because it cracked?Speaking of which, I guess this should be pretty decent. There's only six welds on the bloody thing! I like that it's unique and am most interested to see how they fare in terms of longevity, but I have to agree with the haters - that thing is uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Giacomo looks different in that pic....I think he's waxed his mono-brow. On a serious note, I cant help but think its more a gimmick. I think unless its carbon it's just going to weigh the same or more than say a conventional tubed frame. If you do away with hydroforming and use butted tubing in someway shape or form you can save weight too. I might just be a complete dinosaur here but I'll eagerly await the official weigh so I can compare it to say a Rockman. Why would a hydroformed frame weigh more than a butted regular tube set? You do realise what hydroforming is right? It's not just for making fancy shapes.. I thouhht the same initially, but then I guess the strength/weight ratio comparison will be the decider. Presactly, even if it ends up the same weight as frames on the market, it might be stronger and last longer (a whole season?!). I'm not saying you shouldn't consider it at all - if it's what's important to you then fair enough - but I can't help but feel you guys concentrate on weight too much. Wouldn't you rather have a frame the same weight as rivals that lasts long enough for you to choose to change from, rather than one that's tried to be too light and you HAVE to change because it cracked? Speaking of which, I guess this should be pretty decent. There's only six welds on the bloody thing! I like that it's unique and am most interested to see how they fare in terms of longevity, but I have to agree with the haters - that thing is uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuglyg Weight certainly isn't the most important factor in a frame that's for sure, but when it's a top end comp frame it's certainly a factor and it's easy to make comparisons. Think that's why it comes up so frequently, especially when frame geos are so similar and longevity of a frame is affected by so many different factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm not saying you shouldn't consider it at all - if it's what's important to you then fair enough - but I can't help but feel you guys concentrate on weight too much. Shame the days of 2kg frames are no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm not saying you shouldn't consider it at all - if it's what's important to you then fair enough - but I can't help but feel you guys concentrate on weight too much. Wouldn't you rather have a frame the same weight as rivals that lasts long enough for you to choose to change from, rather than one that's tried to be too light and you HAVE to change because it cracked? Speaking of which, I guess this should be pretty decent. There's only six welds on the bloody thing! I like that it's unique and am most interested to see how they fare in terms of longevity, but I have to agree with the haters - that thing is uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly. Boom! Nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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