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Is a manual especially difficult on a pure trials bike? (GU 26") Should I learn when the 24" arrives? Can't seem to even get the front wheel up past a second or two. But I am a beginner and do pretty much suck at everything anyway.

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Assuming the 24" is a street trials bike it would be much easier on that, but I'd say go on practicing it on your 26", like that you'll have less trouble with them on the 24".

At least that's my logic. :P

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Harder on 26 but definitely possible. 

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Yep, it kind of sucks but once you get it you've got it, if that doesn't sound too obvious. The advice I give to people all the time is focus on leaning back rather than pulling up, I see a lot of beginners (on BMX and mountain bikes mostly, been a while since I've seen a trials rider :p) that think the effort is in lifting the front up but that means your body is over the front so it's just going to go back down quickly - so lean back hard and get the front wheel to follow you back instead.

I only really got the hang of it by practising pulling up the front from a trackstand, when you can bring the front up enough to loop out from a trackstand with no pedal stroke or endo for preload you're good to go. 

Also I was told to wear a rucksack with a tonne of weight in to help get momentum to leaning back, this just leads to horrendous sweat patches so don't listen to anyone who says that :P

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i found the heavy pack thing makes a massive difference, usually lets me irk better manuals out (i'm shit at them though) so it's probably not a good tool to learn with cause it won't teach you the proper skills

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13 hours ago, ogre said:

i found the heavy pack thing makes a massive difference, usually lets me irk better manuals out (i'm shit at them though) so it's probably not a good tool to learn with cause it won't teach you the proper skills

I'm probably biased due to going out with a big camping bag and expecting to learn manuals within the day though... I was an optimistic 14 year old after all. It was probably a year or so before I actually felt alright at them.

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Maybe build one of these? I'm crap at manuals and need to sort it out, going to give building one of these a go today, let you know how I get on....

 

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10 hours ago, Daviesdt said:

Maybe build one of these? I'm crap at manuals and need to sort it out, going to give building one of these a go today, let you know how I get on....

I made one, seems to help me. Don't bother with the 1 x 6 stage and stabalizer wings. The 2 x 6 base is good enough for side to side balance if you're not a complete newbie. If you can trackstand you don't need them.

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Just built one 2, also didn't use the long board underneath or the outrigger. Mine is a bit shit though, didn't have the right material lying around as was being a bit of a tight arse so bodged together what I could. Will give it a go and if it falls apart may have to do a proper job....!

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On August 31, 2017 at 10:57 AM, DeersSlayer said:

I made one, seems to help me. Don't bother with the 1 x 6 stage and stabalizer wings. The 2 x 6 base is good enough for side to side balance if you're not a complete newbie. If you can trackstand you don't need them.

Finally I can balance a manual on 'the machine' for about 20 seconds. Damn good workout for the core muscles! It will probably be years before I can hold a real manual 20 seconds while actually riding street!

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