KOXX-UK Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Koxx have launched two new models, both will be available from the usual sources soon. ACID DROP A single speed entry level Trials model aimed at the street market, £425 for complete bike. WASP A light weight 20”competition bike, designed for younger riders, £845 for complete bike. The KOXX and TRY ALL clothing ranges now include some interesting new additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 what that acid drop has gotta be takin the piss the wasp looks quite nice :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John planet x Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 cool, acid drop looks like a brisa frame :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Staples Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) XTP RRRRRRRRRRRRR the rims make me feel sick EDIT: also, will be interesting to see the price with that rear mechy. Edited October 25, 2005 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 sorry matt i dont agree, i think the xtp r is awesome, maybe the yellow rims are ugly but i can imagine that it wen built up without koxx products looks awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Staples Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 agreed benji pants. the frame, and 50% of the components are illll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i really like that acid drop. gets my seal of approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQuiT-man Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Is it just me, or is their website down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Thank God ONE company is doing horizontal dropouts for stocks now... it's crazy it hasn't happened already :- Pity this is more of a streetier frame than a 'pure' frame, but there we go. Looks like an interesting spec, might be a nice 'play' bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 EDIT: also, will be interesting to see the price with that rear mechy. They were talking $200+ on OTN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thank God ONE company is doing horizontal dropouts for stocks now... it's crazy it hasn't happened already ;) Pity this is more of a streetier frame than a 'pure' frame, but there we go. Looks like an interesting spec, might be a nice 'play' bike? Chris Doneys Revells have had horizontal dropouts for ages. I think horizontal dropouts on stocks is a shite idea the wheel moves all over the place.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Chris Doneys Revells have had horizontal dropouts for ages. I think horizontal dropouts on stocks is a shite idea the wheel moves all over the place.... Works for mods? BMX's? Singlespeed bikes? Motorbikes? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Works for mods? BMX's? Singlespeed bikes? Motorbikes? ;) ...and not 26" trials bikes , Vertical is where its at..... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 ...and not 26" trials bikes , Vertical is where its at..... ;) But it works for everything, incl. 24" and 26" mountain bikes and 'street' bikes, so assuming you can: use chain tugsdo up wheel nutsIt'll work for stocks too ;) Chris Doney's a really good rider too, and he seems to be able to have a non-flappy back wheel? Ah well, your choice I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I agree with luke on this one. Horizontal drop outs would be wicked on a streety play bike, but for trials I wouldnt like to have my chain un-sprung. Plus its such a hassle to get the wheel out and stuff. And setting the brake up would be gayness, plus I wouldnt like to have my wheel in different positions as the chain stretches, probally doesnt but I think it would effect the feel of the bike. Like constantly chainging chainstay length. Wow went off on one ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 looks to me like koxx are fixing something that wasn't broken. i'd sooner ride a bob the builder themed kiddies bike in a major competition broadcast on worldwide television than that acid drop. And as for the wasp, ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 acid drop looks absolutly awful ;) where as the wasp looks like a great kiddies bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadly venom Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I saw a picture of the Acid Drop earlier this year and it is still an ugly bike!! That is an awful color and an unattractive frame design. Entry level or not, more thought should have gone into the design of that frame. As for the drop outs, for BMX and street style 26 inch bikes horizontal drop outs are a good choice. But for bikes like these it maybe better to have vertical drop outs especially if the bikes have multiple gears. Frames that have horizontal drop outs tend to have wheel movement inside of the drop outs. With such low gearing and all of the pedal kicking it may cause the rear wheel to move quite a bit in the frame. Not to mention the brake adjustment headaches that comes with frames with horizontal drop outs. Keep riding, Deadly Venom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 The horizontal dropouts make the frame look cheap to me... I'm not liking either bikes... sorry (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleanbikes Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thought you guys might appreciate this Koxx T-shirt ... (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thank God ONE company is doing horizontal dropouts for stocks now... it's crazy it hasn't happened already (Y) Pity this is more of a streetier frame than a 'pure' frame, but there we go. Surely horizontal dropouts on a pure trials stock effects its comp legalness? no mech-no gears, no gears-no comp entry. and im sure koxx (a comp/natural based company) wouldnt release mulitple frames which would jepordise there frames being entered at mass events, meaning less advertisment. Just a thought. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 As for the drop outs, for BMX and street style 26 inch bikes horizontal drop outs are a good choice. But for bikes like these it maybe better to have vertical drop outs especially if the bikes have multiple gears. Frames that have horizontal drop outs tend to have wheel movement inside of the drop outs. With such low gearing and all of the pedal kicking it may cause the rear wheel to move quite a bit in the frame. Not to mention the brake adjustment headaches that comes with frames with horizontal drop outs. Like I said to Paul Oliver before, stock riders think too much (Y) Think about it for a second. Have mods have always had horizontal dropouts. People have "such low gearing" and "pedal kick", yet there is nothing to "cause the rear wheel to move quite a bit in the frame". It just doesn't happen. Seriously, look at what's around first before coming up with hypotheses, as if the answer to a question is already out there, you don't have to guess your way through a problem. With chain tugs, there is no problem. Equally, you can chain tugs such as the DMR ones which allow you to run gears on a horizontal drop-out bike, meaning that you can get good tension if you run singlespeed, but still run gears if you want. And again, brake headaches? There used to be this problem with mods *ages* ago, but it's not the hardest job in the world to work out roughly where the brake needs to be, then putting it on. Remember - mods work, and mods have horizontal dropouts :) As do BMX's, etc., and they don't have "brake adjustment headaches". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 yip totally agree with mark, its feckin stupid how stock riders dont seem to wanna run horizontal, i know for sure that id go for it, sure itll slightly alter you effective chainstay length-BUT GET OVER IT! ive never had problems with my horizontals on my dirt, bmx or my mod bikes, they have been super sweet, yet mechs/tensioners-they are always a faff due to thier sticky out nature meaning you catch them all too easily the use of a half link would almost rule out the chainstay length problems as to when tension is applied by moving the wheel backwards and so there really arent any excuses there.... basically mod riders manage, and alot of them are the shizzle, it just seems the majority of stock riders arent welcoming such a good idea with embracing arms, which is a great pity also frames such as the azonic steelhead have the gear hanger on them as well as horizontal dropouts, so ensuring comp legalness.........theres really no excuse not too (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 theres really no excuse not too :) But it's different (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Wow who knew people would get so pissed off because people dont like somethings. Horizontal is good if you want to run no tensioner, not much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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