Fair enough, well, hopefully I'll get some more feedback, see what they say Cheers. It was suprisingly easy to be perfectly honest. I was just trying to bounce on the back wheel (which i can do irregularly), and Tris just said to try and kick the pedals and roll along, and i did that, and did it first time, that wasn't too hard, although it's hard to get it consistently; then he just said do that but try and hop and the same time, and I learnt it within three or four goes, which both me and Tris were quite suprised about! Haha, my signature move - the trackstand. Yeah, so I'm getting there, just need to keep on working on it. I'll find out how much money I'll need to get from my mountain bike on thursday when I sell my guitar, so then I'll have some figures to work with!