i had to use that exact method to get my try-all freewheel of so i could get at the bashring. but usually i put the crank in the freezer for a while,have a cup of coffee,get it out of the freezer and poor boiling water from the kettle onto the inside of the freewheel by the splines for the bb and use the remover tool to spin the freewheel off.hopefully that made some sence lol. steve