Fish-Finger-er

Jardo, youve just come across a massive idiot 1) boasting about steroids isnt cool, period 2) Youve just told a 17 year old, who you dont know the first thing about, to go take dianabol, without knowing the first thing about his training, his diet, his general health, with no mention to any sort of consideration for not drinking whilst on an oral steroid, or PCT. Really?? A gym newbie can easily add 15lb of muscle in the first 6 months of training, lookin at your fb pics from 2 years ago, i dont reckon youve added 15lbs of muscle in 2 years, with gear. till someones got a firm base of strength, something like rippetoe, or milke and squats is more use than steroids. why would someone of 17 want to stunt their natural testosterone production??? if they were to go ahead and do it, do you not think the rapid increase in strength would cause issues for joints/ligaments that cant keep up with the gains. I deadlift 530lbs, my limiting factor imo is my knees, they want to pop out, not my muscles. You say after 3 courses, you were a tank, I see you resembling nothing other than a septic tank. You honestly believe that youve gained 3kg of lean mass in 5 days, and most of it aint just water weight, even on gear, 3kg a month is a good gain. you say 60mg of oral steroids is the usual dosage?? who the hell takes 60mg, unless their stuff is underdosed to hell?? You say you can get dianabol anywhere, Find me one place online you can buy it legally to consume in the uk, oh wait, you cant. For a beginner, i see gaining mass as simple, deadlifts, squats, bench, military press, chins, bent over rows. Decent protein intake, for added calories, either a generic mass gainer, or failing that chocolate milke (1 litre, which is easy to get down in a matter of minutes, is 900 calories,and 45g protein), 8 hours sleep a night. Im not goin to say steroids are good or bad, or my stance on them, ill tell you the following though, 80% of people I know on gear, could get the same gains off gear if they ate right, trained right and slept right. (not saying steroids dont work, but get that lot in check first, then take them if you still think they are necessary, and progress will be much better). Taking steroids is something to be done after thought, hard training, reflection on your progress and looking at where you want to be. not after reading some post off a guy on the internet, whos got little other reasoning than "they worked for me" and "steroids are awesome and the way forward"

this may be a stupid point, but on the grand scheme of things, I actually wouldnt care. If the question is not would you be safe having such a dog around children(which I know you would be, providing the correct dog was chosen and appropriately trained). And the question being what would happen to the dog if anything happened - that dog is a family pet, but its also a tool, there to serve a purpose. If you get a £500 fine and lose a dog, but your family dont get their head stoved in by 3 smackheads armed with tyre irons who are intent on taking your TV,DVD and blender, Id call that money well spent.

but I dont have girl trouble, other than she goes the same gym as me. x

why not, he was showing me pics of the blonde hes nailing on the side t'other day. boy is 1 smooth mother trucker.

does it run with the charger in and the battery out??

cyanide?? hydrochloric acid wouldnt be too bad id think, purely because of the amount of water flowing would bring it down to a sensible pH in a short time(given that from memory water pH is pretty variable anyway due to acid coming off tree's in forestries etc.(hence why some forestry commissions drop bags of limestone into small streams etc so as not to effect the ph balance in small streams, but with the water passing through a river, the whole thing becomes pointless) also, spare a thought for those lactose intolerant trout.

probably because its on a plate, and if youve been with a girl for any amount of time, you forget how to chat to girls?? Im guilty of it,and ill be honest, if there was nothing else available, id possibly be guilty of it again. just got to get yourself out there and find something new to plough, we cant all be blessed with simps' good looks(or live in essex).

never done it in a kit, just doesnt seem worth the effort, one of the blokes at work made a cider press out of an old bottle jack and some bits and bobs. we generally trade apples for cider with him(just windfalls etc). it may of been me that your thinking of, as we had some one year that was around 15% from memory JT, if you want it stronger, add more sugar.(but thats cider based knowledge, not beer)

honestly, you should do both. no particular reason to not do both. (obviously think about your routine, dont just do both) arnold supposedly bring the lats into play, but its never gunna do the same as bent over rows/deads/chins. but its good to alter up movements every so often, bring in different muscles/build a better overall strength, as well as shocking the muscles a little bit. dumbell benched 40kg dumbells for 8,6,4 tonight, quite happy with that. and thats dumbells to chest, none of this half rep bullcrap. also down to 17 stone dead. dont think I look hugely different.

with a massive back it seems

for whats it worth, the one leeds lass ive shagged, could definitely bench more than him.

I hate you people with your naturally low body fats.

aye, i can not believe how i trained for maybe 2/3 years without doing deadlifts, floating around 20% body fat at 16 stone, to 12% at 14 stone. A year of doing deadlifts and im sat at like 17 stone 8, 17%, and its widened my back up no end.

but even so, t5's at a sensible dosage do little more than 3-400 calories a day, granted thats almost a pound a week, but its not exactly through the roof weight loss.

I dont get what your trying to achieve. you want to loose weight, you consume less calories than you burn. you want to gain weight, you consume more calories than you burn. if you want to burn fat, rather than muscle, eat more protein, less carbs, still keep some fat in your diet if you want to add muscle rather than fat, consume more of everything, especially protein, and exercise to the point where your muscles need to grow(in strength/size) I dont get what L carnitine is doing for you(i dont really get what it does for anyone, other than take their money and give them a placebo) or what your expecting it do. There is no wonder drug in getting stronger/in shape, it all requires effort.

wtf is it with people wanting to take magic powders and pills to make them better at stuff, seriously creatine, carnitine,NOX, valentine, its all over hyped, over market'd bull crap in my opinion, better off spending the money on better food. or just strapping on a pair. no one seems to realise unless your eating vastly more calories than your using, your not going to bulk up, and its also going to be gradual so you can notice it happening, and adjust your diet to suit. if your only riding 3 hours a week, id suggest more riding for technique, and if your wanting to build explosive power, once youve build up a decent base strength from stuff like push ups, pull ups, etc(take it you aint interested in the gym) then look into things like air alert(meant for basketball, but it works generally for leg power) or just plyometrics in general.

wrong, shes awesome at playing hard to get/leave you wondering. Its playing on your mind when your spending time with her, its playing on your mind when your lieing in bed, hell its playing on your mind enough for you to post on a forum asking about advice off a bunch of single lads and one married who flew across the atlantic and lived as an illegal immigrant for several months. for anything in life, no matter how bad you want it, dont show it,with a girl, if you want it too bad, youll come across as desperate/give her an air of superiority/make her think shes better than you and in control. and you let another lad know how bad you want it, hell smash the back doors off it just to annoy you. can only imagine girls minds work the same way.

it all boils down to how much the other person is worth to you, and how much fun you could be having single. take the arguments, and the pettiness out of it. If the time you spend together outweighs (in a satisfaction sense, not a time sense) the satisfaction youd get as a single male/female, then it can work, if not... then it can work, but its not a pleasant situation of beneficial to either of you, and out of the fact you have feelings for the other person, you should want to see them happy, whether that is with you or not.

Biggest load of bollox in this thread, if i won the lottery, Id not give a toss about how i looked and shag stunners everynight who are only in it for the money.

I've tried other stuff, but honestly the only thing ive found worth the cash is protein. and Id pick real food over protein any day, its just its way too easy to spend £100+ a week on eating right, subbing a couple of chicken breasts for a protein shake, soon drops that cost dramatically. other supplements, if there legal, are imo largely a waste of time(only exception is possibly stuff like jack3d, but i dont like the effects of it, and ill come onto its legality a bit more in a second) if stuff gave you an edge in training i.e it made you stronger/quicker/more powerful, it'd be banned in sports (and youd fail an olympic drugs test on jack3d i believe, purely because of its stupid high caffeine content, setting off readings relating to other stimulants(ephedrine/amphetamines etc)) if it wasnt as quick acting and just made you bigger/leaner over a set amount of time, itd be banned in sports and also banned in animal feeds. (google the steroid finaplex, then google finaplex cows, google the weight loss drug clenbuterol, then google chinese clenbuterol pigs) because if it gave you an actual edge it'd be banned in sports, if it made you more meat less fat for a worthwhile price, farmers would be feeding it to their cattle. And i dont know of any cows on a creatine and BCAA supplemented diet. Sure its a pretty flawed argument, but I think you get the point. As for illegal supplements, thats not something to discuss on this forum.

personally i would, unless your really struggling to get calorie elsewhere. which given the fact you want to lose weight, your not.

if your getting one with carbs and protein, may as well just get a weight gainer for half the price, and cut out 2 slices of toast or whatever. obviously each servings half the price of protein, but it has half the protein in it. Im never a huge fan of creatine for £ per lb of weight(either in mass or strength form), its only really good for eeking out them last couple of reps, at which point i think its a placebo, far better to have a training partner that gives you crap if you dont lift till you start to cry. if your buying a shaker,the ball shakers are way better than the gauze ones, ideally one with a heavy metal ball that sinks nice and quick. can get them for like £2 off ebay, and you can drink other stuff out of them too(in case you wernt sure)

if you can stand the taste, nutrisport 90+, if you cant reflex/my protein.

if you need a hand in convincing leanne that the blonde 18 year old in the office doesnt go for the toned athletic good looking types, ill shag her. then shell be convinced the girl only goes for knobs, and you'd therefore be safe. Boom, kev gets some, leanne gets to put her mind at rest, JD(and the rest of TF, or at least the incrowd) gets dirty pics of the new office girl, everyones a winner, apart from the new office girl, unless shes a fan of premature ejaculation and sexist jokes.

if shell take you, and you want her, crawl on your knees, carrying haribo in your mouth to her and lay it all out. if she wont, all you can do is move on. I've been a fanny about the whole thing with my ex, treated her like crap cos she was always on tap, now shes not I've realised shes actually awesome and i f*cked up big style. I went round for a few weeks tapping anything with a pulse, some where probably fitter than her but they had no personality. "You dont go to bed with a personality" is pretty true,but once you've had your 2 pump one squirt moment its way easier to make small talk and have a laugh with something that doesnt just want sexually satisfying and then to not speak to you for 3 days. But crucially I've realised take shit by the horns and just go for it, I was holding off getting into anything past nandos and a blowie with new girls because I know I'd jump at the chance to get back with Ellie. But I cant waste my life hoping hes going to f*ck up, because not everyones like us. So I've decided f*ck it, may as well get involved with someone if the chance comes along,if I then get the chance to give it another go with Ellie, I guess I'll just decide by which one I want more. Which is maybe treating 1 girl like crap, but thats what got me into this mess, thats what can get me out of it.