Sutty22

I'll be available to ride that weekend. I'll be staying near Telford so can travel to pretty much anywhere in the Midlands. I've been looking forward to getting out and riding some natural while i'm on this crap course. It'll help pass the time. Let me know where you decide to go. Cheers, Sutty

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I'm starting a course at Cosford nr Telford next weekend and I'll be there for three weeks. I'm taking my bike so want to get out riding quite often. Where's good around there and does anyone fancy riding sometime? Would prefer natural as I can't be arsed with the chavs and getting moved on by the police all the time. I'm not opposed to travelling either. I hear there are some good natural spots up the west coast where the tarty boys ride. Let me know, cheers, Sutty

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I spent about four days struggling with my surly, filing it, trying different chains, breaking my 74kingz springs then tried the rohloff, plenty of chain wrap and it was spot on. Have fun riding. Sutty

I had the exact same thing with my surly and new chain. Basically, Surly's need loads of chain wrap to avoid skipping so try and up-tension the chain if you can.

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Hiya mate. How long are you at Cosford for? I'm there at the end of August on a course for four weeks. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see who to get in touch with r.e riding etc because I'm gonna be taking my bike too. Sutty

I once ordered a wheel from selectbikes and received it in less than 24 hours and I live in North Scotland. I certainly had no problems with them.

"my mate described trials as a dying sport" I disagree. I think that trials is bigger than it has ever been. When I stopped riding about six years ago you were limited to Ashton,Hawyes,akrigg replica bikes, Megamo and Monty and the odd Handsome Dog/Planet X frame. I've got back into trials again this year after six years out and am amazed by how much the sport has progressed. To be "good" back in the day you could sidehop (yes from two wheels), up, gap,drop and balance. Looking at the sheer size of things people are doing now and the frontwheel moves and stuff I think the sport has improved loads. There are also loads of munufacturers making trials specific equipment and you actually have a good choice of components for the bikes. I'm looking forward to seeing how the riding looks in another five years time if it carries on at this rate. Sutty

Rear wheels need to be "dished" due to the offset of the freehub body on the hub. It sounds like yours isn't. I agree with everyone, get it to Tartybikes or LBS and get it sorted properly. For the sake of about £15 it will save loads of hassle.

Anywhere thats sells standard metric bolts should be able to help you out. You'll need some M5 bolts, 45mm long by the look of things (have a quick measure to see what you need). Have a look down your local industrial estate and ask at any engineers, car place etc. They'll probably give you four for free if not they'll cost pence. PS, If you get really stuck PM me and I should be able to send you some.

Thanks for everyones opinions. I must say that I like the geo how it is . I'll try the bars forward but I can honestly say i like it how it is. Give it a go though. i'll let you all know how I get on with your suggestions.

Try a local bike shop for a frame box and perhaps a plastic dropout spacer thing. Get tons of bubble wrap, newspaper, foam etc and make sure it's well packaged. Try parcelforce website or parcels2go.co.uk and input the weight and size of the package and they should give you an online quote. Order it and they should come and collect. Make sure it's insured for the correct amount. Dead Easy. Sutty

After loads of playing around I've finally got my bike pretty much how I want it. Got a Caisso frame and stripped and polished it because the paintwork was in poor nick. I've polished the front more than the rear, as is obvious from these pics. Every time I start polishing it I end up getting bored and going riding instead. Also got the Heatsink Bash and done the singlespeed thing too. Really liking how it rides, Just need to get out and about more now. Spec is as follows: Frame- Koxx Caisso Forks- Echo Control Headset- FSA Pig Stem- Echo Control Bars- Adamant Front Brake- Hope Mono Trial 06 (180mm rotor) Rear Brake 07 HS33 with Coustsink CNC Pads and Echo Booster Front Wheel- Echo cnc rim on Echo Disc hub Rear Wheel- Chris King ISO on Try-All rim Drivetrain- Middleburns w/ Heatsink Bash and 18t chainring, 13t Surly on the rear Tensioner- Rohloff I'm happy with the bike at the moment. Just going to improve things as i need to. Things in the pipeline are 203mm rotor, Hope (shorter) Stem and a new chain. Thanks for looking guys.

I've got Coust-Sinks with CNC backings and they're absolutely great. You can get them cheaper with plastic backings too.

What size sprocket is it and what tensioner are you using? I had the exact same problem last week. Basically the chain needs to bed in to the sprocket and when it rides up the teeth it reduces the amount of teeth that are engaged and then skips. I solved the problem by getting more chain wrap around the sprocket so the chain engaged on more teeth. I had to buy a rohloff tensioner but depending on your setup you may be able to up-tension the chain.

This was the exact problem that caused me days of work. I eventually solved the problem by getting a Rohloff short arm tensioner (cheers for the recommendation Ash Kennard). This gives me loads of chain wrap and it doesn't skip at all now. Got a King QR axle off the same guy and fitted that tonight and also my Coust-sink pads. Well happy with the bike now. It just needs to not break for a couple of months as I've spent loads on it in the last couple of weeks. Thanks to everyone for their advice and help, I was truly tearing my hair out and getting well pissed off but alls well now. Cheers, Sutty.

Bikes knackered at the mo but will definately arrange for another date. There's a couple of lads from Inverness I know who would be up for it too. Add me if you want: sutty22@hotmail.co.uk sutty

I wouldn't recommend the 74 kingz. As Ash says, they are crap unless you only need a miniscule amount of tension. I've had loads of hassle with mine in the last two days and i'm just going to make my own. There's plenty of threads on it and you can make something that suits you, your bike and your wallet. I basically spent £30 on the 74kingz to find out it wasn't up to the job. P.S Just looked at Ash's link and that modified Rohloff looks excellent. Thats exactly what I need to do to get more wrap on my rear sprocket.

I have tried everyhing I can think of and got nowhere. The 74kingz tensioner is utter toss if you need to put anything other than a little tension on your chain. To try and bed my chain and sprocket in I put loads of tension on it but the chain still rides up the teeth as though the pitch of one of them is out (it's definately not climbing up the sides). When it rides up it obviously tightens the chain and snaps the spring on the tensioner. Its destroyed both springs and countless hacksaw blades. After two days I'm absolutely no closer to getting it working, I'm going to build my own tensioner, that actually tensions the chain tomorrow. Can't run the tensioner upside down as the chain touches itself at the top, can't take a link out as its not long enough then (by about 2mm). I think that the surly cogs teeth are not deep enough which is why it requires loads of wrap for it to work. How do other sprockets fare like that? Has anyone found one that doesn't require much chain wrap for it to work? Also just noticed a crack in the axle of my king hub that i'm certain wasn't there when i started so thats gonna be tons of cash to fix Today has just been a s**t day. sorry for ranting but I actually feel much better now

It's a 74kingz. Thats another thing that f***s me off. The tensioner cost me £30 and the sprocket £20 so thats £50 for bits that don't do the job they're supposed to. The sprocket works fine if the chain is hoofing tight but that bends the springs on the tensioner and eventually breaks them. Lose-lose situation. I'm basically redesigning the tensioner myself to get it to hold the chain tight without falling apart. I'm desperate to get out on my bike as we've had torrential rain all week and its been fine today. Does anyone know if this skipping when new is just surly sprockets or do they all do it. Basically thinking about biting the bullet and getting a king cog or something just so I can ride my new bike. p.s Just tried up-tensioning to get more wrap but it made no difference. 18-13 is quite hard gearing not light.