JackZOO!

Ok guys, It's been an awseme week and it's my last day! I didn't know how tired I would get!!! We fixed punchers, built new bikes(Some of the 2011 Uniteds) and just rode our bikes out side! It was so awseme, Just want a jobb like that!

I saw the trailer and thought, another python owner?! YES! Great Vid man, keep up the riding, you've got a good street area!

I'm not even buying one, It just looked extremely thin!

My work experience is at ownes cycles and I just can't wait!!! I'm doing it with my best friend and I LOVE bikes! What more could I want!?!?! Ill keep you guys updated about what's going down at owens!

Hey forum, I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the NEW Echo Urban Isis Bottom bracket? Does anyone own it or have they tested it? Click Here to see it Tell me what you think of it guys. Thanks

Hey forum, I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the NEW Echo Urban Isis Bottom bracket? Does anyone own it or have they tested it? Click Here to see it Tell me what you think of it guys. Thanks

Hey Forum, I'm jack and I ride a 20" ZOO! Python 09! I don't know anyone else with one because it's different from the ZOO! Lynx hah Well basically, I ride with the Hampshire bike trial club (which is ending soon ... ) and I don't ride a lot of street, mainly natural. My bike has a Echo Sl green rear rim and soon to be the same on the front, with a disc and Hs33 set-up. My other hobbies are Cars(although I'm 14), Jogging, Product Design and lots of other things! Thanks Jack

Hey Forum, I've started a New youtube channel with all my trials video's on it and I would really appreciate it if you took the time take a look at it, comment and subscribe. Just click here to get to my channel. Thanks Again Guys for the support!

Hey man, Really nice vid you got there, and thats just a teaser! Can you tell me when the full video will come out? Thanks PS.. What year/ make of ZOO! is that? I it a python?

OK guys, I've pretty much got it sorted I just need the money! I have found a website which sells the stem and sloping top cap so I'm in business! Thanks for all your help

Thanks guys, But i didn't want either of the ones that you said, the one Im talking about is this one: It used to be on tarty but it isn't anymore..

Not form Tarty bikes. Tartybikes doesn't sell it anymore. I NEED ONE!!!

Hey forum, Something really important here! Tarty bikes have just stop selling there sloping top caps, and I was stupidly close to buying a try-all stem which needs one to fit it on as it does not work with a flat or monty sloping top cap!!! <no buying/selling in NMC - be patient until Tom/Danny sort out the validation system!> Any help would be appreciated!

Hey forum, I'm trying to buy a Try-All Nuc Stem for my ZOO! Python. If anyone has any for Sale then please tell me/ email me etc. I cannot post in the buying/selling section because I have not been vaildated, so It's now here Thanks JackZOO!

Hey guys, Next week (5th to the 9th) I got my work Experiance. I'm especially looking forward to it because I get to work in Owens Cycles!!! This is a awseme bike shop, and in the morings I will be riding there and back in the evenings. Because I ride trials I think I will fit in well there, so forum, what did you do for work experiance?? JackZo0!

Thanks for the reply, Well it's good now that your starting to create your own opinion on what bikes you like and what brakes you like. £400 for a starter bike? I would sya thats a very reasonable price for a starter bike and now I can see I was looking a bit over your price range... So here are some examples of what sort of deals you could be snapping up on ebay! I sold my onza T-Bird for £100 there and it was double hs33!!! (These are based on the fact you dont care what the front brake is, which my signifficantly bring the price down) BTW Are you sure your looking for a 20"? Bike: Onza T-Pro Buy It Now Price:N/A Bidding: £100 Brake Setup: Double HS33 Link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/onza-t-pro-trials-bike-/170498970306?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item27b287d2c2 Bike: Onza T-Pro Buy It Now Price: £350 Bidding: N/A Brake Setup: Double Disc Link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Onza-Pro-Trials-Bike-Excellent-Condition-/220623327986?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item335e2cd2f2 This bike is an example to how much you'll be spending on a echo which is obviously what you want or like the look of! They are very expensive even second hand and in this case it would be cheaper to buy a brand new ECHO than to buy this!!! Bike: Echo Team Buy It Now Price: £600 Bidding: £500 Brake Setup: Front Disc Rear HS33 Link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Echo-Trials-Bike-Monty-Try-all-Adamant-/260617293120?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item3cae004d40 Take a look at each of these a see what you think. When you do some research you can really find some sweet deals! BTW How old are you?

Well basically, you get 3 different types of mounts. Hs33 mounts, which are two paralell threads, V-Brake mounts, which is a single thread and disc mounts which is again, two threaded mounts. Instead of replacing V-Brakes with hs33's I would suggest BUYING a frame with Hs33 mounts already, as it will be only a tiny bit more expensive, and you will not have the hassle of V-Brake to hs33 converters. It is also hard to setup hs33's with V-brake converters, especially for a starter like you. HS33 Mounts: Disc Mounts: V-Brake Mounts: I PERSONALLY would recomend the onza comp and if I was you, I would buy this bike. It is cheap, has the double hs33 setup which Ive already told you about and looks pretty nice too. As you can see from the pictures, Hs33's constist of 4 threaded wholes in the frame. Each "Clamp" has 2 bolts which screw into the frame, and becareful when doing this as you can cross thread easily and have to buy a brand new frame instantly. The V-Brake only has 2 bolts, one on each side of the frame meaning the brake cannot hold aswel or be as powerful inless setup correctly on the same rim. I will not go into detail about double disc inless requested. EXAMPLE- My friend made a bad mistake which I don't want people like you to make. He bought a saracen trials bike which is alright for starters. It had V-Brake mounts on the forks and frame, but the rest of the bike was stock. As he got better he decided to upgrade to hs33's but then realised the costs. He needed x2 Hs33's costing £120 x1 Frame costing £200+. If he had have bought a frame or bike which came with hs33's or Hs33 mounts then he would not have this extra cost, which would work out to be more than simply buying the correct bike in the first place. Take a look around and see what you like, and tell me if you want and I can give you feedback on whats what. By the way, I would not recomend buying anything over £650, and when you pay that sort of money for a starter bike, you might aswel have a ZOO! Lynx or a Echo Lite!!! THE BIKE I RECOMEND:

Hey, For a starter bike, I believe that you should really think about what bike to buy. You should take into account the brake setup and I shall explain it to you in detail. There are a couple of different brake setups but i will explain a handfull of them to you. Double Hs33:Double Hs33 is one of the best brake setups. It is good because the brakes hold well of smooth or ground rims(Ground meaning ground down with a disc grinder). Unfortunatlly they are also expensive, at the price of £59.99 from www.tartybikes.co.uk for a single brake. They do not have to be maintained as much as disc brakes and last for a while. Hs33's are also hydrolic rim brakes so they need bleeding once in a while but that is easy enough once you've watched some video guides. Double Disc: Is a very expensive brake setup. Each brake can cost up to £100 or more! There are 2 different types of disc brakes. Cable disc brakes, like V-Brakes, and hydrolic disc brakes, like hs33's using liquid for the brake to operate. For a starter you should not really buy a frame or bike with double disc, and the brakes have to be mainted often otherwise the preformance will decrease. As you can proabally tell, hydrolic discs are better than cable, but come at a price. A big advantage is that double disc means sharp braking, which is proabally not a good idea for a starter bike. Front Disc Rear Hs33: Front disc and rear hs33 is proabally the best setup, or most used setup in trials. This is because you get a nice sharp front brake for moves like stopies etc and a grippy rear hs33, which can work even better on a ground rim. I would personally recomend this brake setup, however it is quite costly for both of these brakes. I would say you should upgrade your forks once your used to riding and put a nice sharp responsive disc on the front. Double V-Brake: Double V-Brake is the cheapest setup, and can be one of the best if setup correctly. I would also recommend this to any starter. They brakes can again be nice and sharp of ground or smooth rims but also can be fearthed easily. However, If you buy a frame with V-Brake mounts, and you want to upgrade to hs33's, then you need to buy a new frame. This is one disadvantage of V-Brakes so it is important you make the right choice first time. Here are a few bikes I would recomend that you condiser buying. Each one has the brake setups I was talking about. Bike:Onza Rip Price:£319.99 Brake Setup:Double V-Brake Bike:Onza Pro Price:£489.00 Brake Setup:Double Disc Bike:Onza Comp I recomend This bike! Price:£529.99 Brake Setup:Double Hs33 Bike:Onza Blade Price:£589.00 Brake Setup:Disc Front, Hs33 Rear I hope this information helps you and aids you to make your choice about brakes