Mate...just take a look at what your writing and think about. You have gone to an "outdoor show" , not a frigging trials demo..., there are there just for people to stand and watch and say " wow " - PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN A TRIAL BIKE BEFORE. Yes im sure they did ride shit...but i bet plenty of people went home saying, oh my god, them guys on the bikes were great. They can only ride the obstacles, there given, and usually its pretty basic stuff.Not there fault they just ride it. You gotta get this..." i can do 40" sidehop" bollox out of your head...who cares, so what they were only doing 25...thats prolly all there was to sidehop. Also there riding in front of like 1000 people at a time....put yourself in there shoes and watch yourself shit it So yer as simon said take your head out of your arse. Also another reason you piss me off....is beacuse youve been riding how long...2 years maximum...and your taking piss out of someone( simon sagar ) who BACK IN THE f**kING DAY probably inspired loadsssss of people to ride. sitrials.com was f**king legendry, riding with berridge , potts the lott. I kow i used to look at up to simon and think, wow...i wanna be that good one day.So even if he was shit,,,i wouldnt rip him because of what hes done for the sport. And for the record...Just go on a ride with simon( or any of them ), i can assure you know, there not shit