Don't worry there are some younger riders who just want to ride their bikes and not argue like some tools do and who have a passion for the sport like you older guys. I don't really see the point in this thread really can we not just leave it at, we all ride different styles of riding so can't we just get on with it, you can't really define what a trials rider is because there are so many different styles as mentioned earlier in the thread, Kenny Belaey is a good example of a rider at the top level of comp trials but he still rides a 24 inch like a experienced smooth manualing street rider. Your still classed as a Mountain biker if you ride XC, Freeride, Downhill, dirt jumping and 4X so why can't people who ride street trials, TGS, comps and natural be classed as Trials Riders?