stop being twats i f**king HATE this place the guys askng for advice and all you fags can do is poke fun get a life for gods sake, id say just wait or go somewhere else cos mix hubs are well sturdy and sound amaing but if your desperate for a wheel full odyssey wheels are like 140 ish and yeah propper wheels are pretty good too, you could spend a bit more and get an eclat teck wich sound soooo nice and are really strong