MonsieurMonkey

The free running and BMX sections were ruined by the editing. There was way too much going on in the BMX section. Didn't need all of the effects adding the dark look alone was enough. The story based free running idea was just stupid and really ruined what could have been an awesome little clip. The skateboarder was good but it was all stuff Rodney Mullen was doing 20 years ago. So while its incredible its not that ground breaking. I made girlfriend watch some of Danny Macs previous videos before we watched it and she said she preferred those. I felt the same. I thought it was the best of the 4 videos but not as good as some of his other stuff. I thought the free running and trials looked good together as did the flatland and the skateboarder. Was one of the best things I've seen on tv in a while though. And We could see a surge of new members.

Like I said we were going round in circles. You have different opinions to me, it's not like one of us is going to change the other's mind. I just couldn't be bothered typing out essay after essay. We had hijacked the thread in the sense it was a conversation between me and you. I was more than happy to come off the topic of just punishment and discuss the reasons and theory behind it all. But we both have different levels of understanding in the field so it's hard to discuss it in this back and forth way.

That's definitely something that knocks me sick, the idea of crawling through a tunnel that is literally only big enough to squeeze through. Like The Descent, I felt the same watching it, not scared, but just made me really nervous and sick.

This is gonna be my last reply on this, because we're going round in circles like a pair of dancing queers. 1. Not really, sometimes you can be advertising so people know which product is best, where they can get the best price etc. I have no problem with advertisement, I never see something on TV then have to go out and buy it. Normally I'll go on the internet and see where I can get it the cheapest and see if there's anything better. 2. They don't want to learn, that's the problem, you're giving them more excuses. They don't see it as being necessary due to the benefits culture we live in. 3. Thanks, let's homo it up. 4. Your views are definitely more Commie than most peoples. 5. I don't see how, you're blaming a social problem we've had for a long time on energy? If we had no energy, these people would be killed, as they would be a complete waste of resources. 6. Technically you learn from anything, so that kiddy fiddler is teaching. Your life experiences would have taught you that you're not worth anything. On your answer, I got my first games console at the age of 4, I played games obsessively until I was about 18/19 and I mean a few solid hours a day. Again those who say that games are the cause of anything like this are just plain wrong, there is something inherently wrong with a person if what you see in a game makes you want to recreate it in real life. Thread unhijacked, back to the riots.

I ain't a big fan of snakes, but I'm not as bad as I used to be. I mean I f**king hate them still, but I've stroked one recently (Not some joke, genuinely) and it made me feel a bit better about them.

I wouldn't go so far as saying they know more about the human mind or condition than both of us put together. Maybe in advertising, but not everything. But that's hardly relevant. It's not that they're made to make us want something, it's that the newest and latest is constantly pushed in our face. So we look at what we have and think that ours is no longer as good. Even number plates make sure we know what year a car is, conspiracy????!?!?!?! That's a joke by the way. I was brought up to have a good understanding of the value of money. Wanting and needing is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Right now I need a new laptop, this one is seriously on it's last legs. But I wouldn't go and steal one, if it dies I'll use the University's computers until I can afford a new one. I think that the best thing to do is to teach kid's the value of money, understanding the value of money (However you choose to do this) is a huge factor in the whole want / need thing. If money actually means something, you'll put the things you need above the things you want. If you have no value of money due to being given it your entire life and never having to work for it then this line becomes blurred. (I'm not saying that's going on with your kid, but I'm assuming they're like <11 because you said toys, so you control all their money anyway pretty much) Erm, I have gone through phases, as a family we don't have massive amounts of money, my mum and dad are separated and have been for a long time. I'm not going to get into my entire life history, but no we are definitely below average when it comes to income. But I have earned more than the average when I lived alone for a while, that gave me a different perspective of money and quite how worthless it and material possessions actually are in some situations. I'm not sure what to say about self worth, I'm not even sure if I want to go into it. Basically no, I don't value myself, I never have I never will. Ever since I was a kid I haven't and I doubt that'll change. I don't see why that's relevant though, self worth is something that's taught. People don't think everyone who is on the dole is a scum bag, they think those that cause damage to our society in whatever way they choose are. So unless you feel you fit that stereotype then why would it lower your self worth? Don't you think that you're giving them an excuse there? "Oh they've not got much self worth, they deserve our pity." And as I said before, they make up the underclass, 80% of crime is committed by them. The stereotype they bring around is made by them. I understand more than most that the areas that they grow up in and who they associate with affects this, but if a single mother has 5 children, and has her first at 17 and has no idea how to control them, then the kids don't have a chance. If you wanted to fix this problem, at it's root, no more than 1 child unless both parents are working and financially stable and even then the limit is 2. But this would take years to have any real affect and I'm sure human rights would have something to say. Thing is, a lot of the people I went to school with fit these stereotypes. Some of them still do, most of them are now normalish, but the unemployment near me is ridiculous so it's hard. Some of us have excelled our background and are almost anomalies for our school, those of us that are either in or finished University averaging above a 2.1 really are a fraction of a percentage. This is my problem with a lot of these "esteemed" academics, they come from middle class or above backgrounds, they've never lived it. In the same way judges haven't. They didn't get the shit kicked out of them for being a "swot" on a weekly basis. This is what most people don't understand, the majority of them not only don't give a f**k about their own future, they think you shouldn't either. Imagine trying to fight against the allure of that. You have 2 choices, go with the crowd, live off benefits, or get battered by the majority and make something of yourself. (Little insight to my schooling and possibly why I have no self worth...) I started rambling there, so yeah, I might have missed some things. Don't take this the wrong way, but you're a proper commy aren't you On the energy thing, I feel we need to work with nuclear power. We have an ever expanding universe full of black holes we can fire the waste into if we really need to. I don't think energy plays as bigger part as you think, but again to each their own. The whole money thing is irrelevant, I feel the problem lies with education. If everyone was as educated as me, they'd understand that money ain't that special. I get more of a buzz from google sky maps than any game. You can see where f**king any planet is. That shit's amazing.

Chavs and scumbags are created by society. A small, but growing, part of society, it's called the Underclass. They account for over 80% of crime. I get why people are getting fed up of it. I'm not going to write an essay on it, but I covered some aspects of it a few pages back. I assume you're trying to say this is our commercialist societies fault. Well I'll partly agree with that, in the sense that people who have seen their parents live on handouts their entire lives and grow up aspiring to the same feel they should get everything for free. When they can't afford to get the newest things that they want then they want to take them. But you can't blame commercialism because it's only making one group rob, I'm not going out robbing things even though I want stuff. I'm a student, and this year just gone I went for about a month of being in an incredibly bad way money wise, 2 meals a day, only drinking water, and coffee was my dessert every night. (Uni halls are robbing bastards) But I didn't go out stealing things, even though I wanted food, not a new pair of sick Nikez blud. Those executives make huge amounts of money, but they also provide a service, whatever it may be, they actually bring us something. And to get any further in technology we have to f**k up our planet, we need to see what we can do. We need to burn fossil fuels right now to power our planet so we can continue researching greener technology. Or should we try and do it with no power, because that'd be the greenest way to do it. Smashing up your own city and costing money and suffering for absolutely no benefit isn't comparable. The bankers aren't a comparison either, when we were booming no-one seemed to complain about them, in a way what caused the economic recession was allowing more people to own their own home. It wasn't the best idea, and yes it was because of greed, but it still allowed people to own their own home who wouldn't have been able to otherwise, some of whom I'm sure didn't default on their mortgage. These people did do it either for the fun of it, or to get free things. There's nothing more to it. Yes it is partly societies fault, for allowing our country to harbour this problem for so long without doing anything about it. But that doesn't mean their behaviour is excused, they are still directly to blame. I suppose I'll go into the real depth of the problem in this country, we have always had a hugely left wing past. This has meant that we have looked after those who needed looking after in their times of need. If you couldn't find a job, then society would look after you and make sure you weren't left out in the cold until you found another. If you have a long term illness that stops you from working, then you were also looked after. The problem with this is, some people see this as an opportunity to take advantage, and if you're brought up with parents who think it's okay to live off the rest of society, chances are you will too. When you factor in, the more kids you have the more money you get, this problem starts to grow exponentially. We have a generation of kids who just don't see the value of work because in their lifetime they have never seen their parents working. They learn how to work the system, because it's not exactly hard to do it. I'm not saying benefit fraud costs us a massive amount of money, it doesn't. Tax evasion costs us massive massive amounts more. But it's the kind of person it creates. It creates a sponging, unmotivated, greedy society. I never expect to be given anything, I expect to have to work for it in some way. But these people are just expecting life to hand them everything on a platter. They see a chance to take more, then they will. I understand what you're saying, that socioeconomic factors have created these people, but the same factors haven't turned every single one of us into them. It's a minority that it has affected in that way. Why haven't we all gone looting and all signed on? We've seen them do it for a long time now and prosper, so why don't we just all f**k off our jobs, get a free house and get the Government to give us some money? Sorry for the length of this, there is no TLDR.

The extremely well respected Professor who has worse grammar than me? Who said it/wrote it? That's beyond the point anyway, if you are saying you think it may apply. Then you must understand it fully, so explain it to me. I can't understand how someone can say in one sentence that it must be in the wiring (this would generally mean within a singular person, how they are wired) and then say it's socioeconomic factors. Weird how this prominent "Professor of Wikipedia" doesn't know the word socioeconomic either.

Rewrite that so it makes more sense. Or compress it down into a sentence. It's hypocritical and everything.

I agree, but I don't think the Government could get away with cutting genuine protesters benefits. I know I wouldn't stand for it, but if you want to burn and rob other people's stuff, then I'd be quite happy for them to get the death penalty. I despise the thought of working for things then someone else just coming taking them, even more so when my taxes pay for everything else in their lives. (Not my taxes at this very moment, but you get my drift.)

But they're cutting people's benefits for rioting and looting. Not for protesting. And if you take their house and benefits away, they end up homeless. And die. Seems pretty win win.

Teehee!

Where there's a blame there's a claim.

Vastly overpriced. But they do make quality kit if you can afford it comfortably.

I plan mine meticulously, it gets to a point where it's not just doodling. You have to be careful with what you do. I like doing different patterns within each shape, but I hate having 2 shapes next to each other with the same pattern.

When you get T-Boned by a 4x4 for being a retard, it'll be a real problem.

Doodles like that keep me busy whenever I'm in the library. I've never filled a full page like that though.

Good vid, I wanted moar! And moar zebra lol.

This is definitely the way to go, and it's not too hard. My first build was a bit sloppy but I was 14, I've done 3 since, and they've got better and better. I'm actually quite looking forward to being in a full time job and being able to build my next, because I'm just that much of a nerd.

See what Muel says. But check these out as well if you can't find what you want, they will build it up, and guarantee it from what I remember. CyberPower

I like it, not too keen on the green, but other than that. I guess my taste's are like 6 years old though. So I'm probably about as fashionable as a tramp. (When it comes to bikes.)

Planetside 2 is coming out. Anyone that played the first one will know why this is going to be amazing. Planetside 2

I'd leave it, let her come to you or find someone else. Sometimes your brain tells you afterwards that it was better than it really was. It probably doesn't seem like it, and taking people's advice can be almost impossible. Sometimes you've just gotta do what you want to do. What's the way you want to deal with the situation? You might feel more satisfied if you just do it your way, regardless of the outcome. If she doesn't want to be with you, do you really want to try and talk her round to being with you?

If it can take that much of a beating, and films video that well, I'd say £300 is more than fair. Go buy another HD camera for £300, and tape it to your bike, then go for a ride, see how long it lasts and how many falls it can survive.

Out of interest, how much of a beating can the camera take before it's game over?