wWll i put it together, but noticed where my spokes snapped before the rim has got some cracks, so time to bin it and get a new one, but i have a profile hub (36 spoke) and finding a rim available for that is a nightmare, tarty dont have the try-all one in stock. And 4 cross is a nightmare if you snap a spoke as can't just take it out and add a new one, as the spokes cross over the hub, so i will be asking for a 3 cross next time. I do appreciate all the comments though.