FamilyBiker

no problem,if 10 of the 40 people who asked me will buy a set i can continue making them even quicker because i can order compound in advance but thanks,i am used to mass psychology and have a coworker that is a former dr. phil. no offence taken,just joking back (except for the 40 and the dr.phil )

see,i am not a business guy(and you´ve seen that from my posts).i am a guy of doing stuff.you´ll never get things in my head that for your thinking are just normal.you could be my neighbour asking me to swap over some potatoes for his tomatoes,that´d work. maybe i am just to simple minded (drops tear),and not made to exist in such a world..... baaaaaam!(shot head) nah,honestly,i am sure a few dudes on here are with me with my -in your opinion inaccurate- way of thinking that life and trading as a part of it could and should be way simpler than it is now. i am not keen on working/consuming/repeat and dying after that without doing something with my life i am happy about. (which btw i am doing as we speak,making pads for everyone,just for the fun of it ).

sure,and i understand the processes behind it,maybe i came across the wrong way.i´m the kind of guy that is rather buying at a known source (or "local"if you like,taking marino out of the equation,he´s just the only custom steel frame maker i am related to)than supporting the "1st world eats 3rd world" thing (yes another phrase of that kind,y´all should know my way to express by now ) its real,someone can produce pads here in europe and sell them for a tenner plus postage without loosing money.i could go up to the prices established "manufacturers" or labellers take and easily earn say 500€ per month from pads in my spare time,just from the demand i have in 2 forums atm.and thats with labour costs of 10€/hour.(edited,wrong button lol)a mould for 10 pairs is needed i redefine my question(not that it wont be ripped apart anyways): why does it have to be pads that go up from a few cents a piece to 20€ a set?while taking all this effort and climate change factors like transport etc,health politics in the producer countries... if the above is possible. a forum is a place where opinions can be shared,not a place where one says something and another one writes a virtual book in return. i respect your opinion,man.but it seems like every bike business related post i make is an invitation for you to take your torch and go lynching the villain

sure,i am not quite there. strange that,coustellier was cutting pads with a stanley knife and noone didnt care to ride them,just weeks after he came up with that stuff,they didnt have even the time i´ve tested my pads for before they gave them away back in 2004. just weeks after the first ones were seen (actually they rode worn koxx pads to which the coust compound was glued ) they were available online. noone complained,a pro rider couldnt do sh*t regading brake pads right? they literally used people for prototyping. i´m forcing nobody to try my pads,i am just saying that i like em very much,and the suggestion to try them for the cost i have making them isnt a crime,people have their own will. sure,if i´d add labour costs like at work they´d be like 30€ a set. but professional pads,apart from real cousts, are pumped out by an injection moulding machine with a frequency of like 100pc./hour,what costs would you add to this if they come from china? the guy who sticks the label on the pack,10€?shipping as a single set at a time,3€?plus 6 euro handling fee to "finally earn some money" that´d be raising a 1 euro pad set up to where trialtech or or or are.but in real life shipping for a box with 1000pc is like 20€,the guy with the label roll costs 150 a month because he´s chinese. should people pay labour costs for the guy who orders them in china,as high as if he´d made them by hand as i do?most pads are just handed over from the shipping box to the customer,is it right that this raises the price per set by 10€ maybe i am a bit oldskool here,kind of a dreamer,i just cant figure out how this works.first world robs other countries workers,thats what this is telling me. the reason why i´ve started this^^ believe me,pads are hardly a eur or gbp a set in production,i talked to several manufacturers (on aliblahblah andhere in germany) if they could produce my stuff,they just cant provide the same rubber i´ve found. and to be honest making pads makes familybiker happy

i went through a huge amount of research now,on the bottom you see different pads,every one was another compound,and i made 2 sets of every compound. then i cut one pad in half to see how consistent (air trapped,colour inconsistencies) the compound is and kept the single pads for future purposes,while riding a set of each during every of that processes thats 8 different rubbers and compounds of each i´ve tested,with number 9 being the first of the new rubber,and number 10 being my personal "bullseye" i went through 100euros to achieve this,so: pad producers,how do you explain a set of pads being 20 euros? kind of joking,but not completely i´m afraid

get some trimps,theyre...my selfmade ones lol

once your grind starts to flatten down,cousts arent that good really,they always needed a fresh grind when i had them.

dope - die mf die nah just kidding,i am just listening to normal stuff i always listen to when riding from a to b,listening to music while riding trials is absolutely killing my concentration. i need the klicks and clonks my bike makes,thats the sound i am listening to

nice vid! daves going biiiig!

my green is more a "hulkish" one,wheras the tnn ones are more of an emerald green.still testing,could be possible they stay white. i tried glueing and unglued,some of the glued ones worked loose(no play,just the glue broke),but none came out. a set for the front on my mates bike would be nice,yes

whats the wear like on your pads with 70a? on my 85a ones its pretty much non existent yet,after 3 rides though. thought i´ll be glueing pads into the backings 24/7,but surprisingly still running the first set lol

with a resin that has a handling time of around 2h you´ll be having far less bubbles without doing anything,the bubbles have time to rise and pop. just saying look what i am doing right now, first green ones with the good stuff.i had to change the receipt to match the amount of pigment added,too much of that stuff and it doesnt cure fully,bubblegumish pads then lol

yeah mate,thats nice. but thats kind of the reason i´ve been going for a proper mould,i think i´d kill myself with a stanley knife cutting pads for hours and hours how long does it take for you to make a set?

want to try a set?you are very likely being experienced being a shop guy and a rider. pm me your address. its not that i dont know how my pads should be,and i am not an idiot when it comes to materials and tension,friction and so on,thats basically what i am into since years and years. for the moment i´d say if a 90+kg guy(me) is abusing pads intentionally and they take it,its nice to know,i´ll see where this´ll go. even if i spend say 100 euro for tooling and materials (thats pretty much what it turns out like atm,including mould)and my idea of producing pads professionally one day doesnt take off me and my mates´d be having our own awesome free pads for the rest of our lifes. taking into account that i spend like 30euros a year for pads thats nice to know 3 sets to make for a break-even

thanks,will correct my cad drawing accordingly.

i love it!

i actually need the size of the recesses of the new style ones,are they exactly like the older ones? i have to take them into account when cnc´ing the new mould,i want my pads to fit them ALL! (with a bit of cutting here and there )

turns out theyre old style heatsink backings,exactly those are laying on my desk right now. can anyone confirm the recess measurements of the pads? thanks in advance

guys,i need your help. today i got some unknown backings from *gentlydoesit and their recesses are another size than my pads,which happened for the first time now. they fit tnn,echo, and standard plastic backings(with slight grinding of the pads) what arethe recess sizes of your backings? echo have 17.25x7.7mm each with a gap of 11.5mm,the unknown ones 18x7.4mm with a gap of 11

38.5 regular.4 fixed hours of overtime on saturdays during the bike season,sometimes more. bicycle mechanic.

as long as the power is there i wouldnt bother. on tektro brakes this is a built-in feature lol

its the holes in the disc together with the sharp edges of the pads. if you file the edges at an angle it will be gone Uploaded with ImageShack.us

ba dum tssss

i think with the new frames and forks its such a demand for them,marino seems to not having any mild steel tubing left.noone ordered mild steel frames for about a year now. just get real street parts,tech9 forks,crmo bars,dh rims. or another attempt on gaining weight:get some training weights,those which you strap onto wrists and ankles