FamilyBiker

thats right,okay,most of the ingredients have been tested over decades(propylene glycol and glycerine are used in smoke machines for clubs and asthma vaporizers,beauty products too),and a few manufacturers have started testing vaping devices in vitro. but the truth is theres no long term info. pretty much the only thing that annoys me fictional people like jesus have nothing to do with that i believe

perfect citizen:pay massive amounts of tobacco taxes,then die young,not getting your social insurance paid. basically the reason why lead painted toys are forbidden while smoking isnt,theres no tax for lead paint. to exxagerate a bit

what the hell is the point of a discussion for people like you? edit:okay,now i think i missed a joke here^ :wink2:

no,from there you would see marinos lower back,from what you and others said about me joking aside smoking got some kind of ritual,and like saying f*ck to everything,things establish if a big amount of people thinks its normal. for example,the word f*ck is originally meant to say that someone is allowed by the king to have sexual intercourse and to have children.then it meant actually doing it,the americans made the word suitable to everything for theirselves. i know its not exactly comparable,just an example how things can develop in a totally different direction than the original meaning. like smoking,only shamans did it during rituals first for the craving part, i never really felt itching or shaking,or the need to smoke,i just figured out how to manage my nicotine level and it worked.

if you see it that way,it clearly is.most people start smoking in kids age,so its kind of a social problem,too... things get common,like piercings and tattoos,which are self destructive too,if you watch it happening from another view. fair point from pashley26,big respect for just doing it.

didnt want to preach,its just that i didnt even hear about vaping until a year ago or so,and i think its good to know for some people that it is there. at the end its their choice,but i cant call something a choice without knowing an alternative. sorry if i sounded like i wanted to promote vaping,just a good thing for me right now,and this here is an oportunity to get e few opinions bout it

hope theres a vid soon!

didnt want to spam the happy thread,but as i´ve seen theres a huge potential for discussions,i thought making a thread would be interesting. tell me your opinion, do you see vaping as a less harmful alternative to traditional cigarettes/pipes?(like i do) do you think one should quit completely,or continue smoking in the traditional sense instead of vaping? i think vaping is a completely different thing compared with smoking,parralels have to be seen in inhaling something,but other than that its more of a taste thing,enjoying different flavours,and because i quit traditional smoking thanks to vaping,consuming nicotine to make my brain shut up recent research brought up data that is really promising in terms of health,too. http://www.utahvapers.com/clearstream_files/page1-clearstreamair.jpg dont want to promote this in any way,my opinion,so tell me your opinions

actually it isnt smoke.smoke are tiny dust particles in hot air,vapours are tiny liquid drops. no carbon monoxyde,no cancerogen chemicals. thats why i´d say i stopped smoking,i just started consuming nicotine in an alternative way to inhaling diesel exhaust fumes hahaha

didnt nirvana have a song that was like "vape me"?

in the same way we all will probably have the screens of our smartphones built into contact lenses one day,i think things like that will get pretty normal. same with tight jeans,when i was a kiddy you would´ve been getting the question if you were accidently grabbing one of your little sisters pants,if you were seen wearing one.and today grown men ride with tights i´d rather vape and look gay then die from cancer and look dead lol

that is beautiful in a weird way,i like it very much!

its the same thing again,opinions. i could say"dont be an idiot,start vaping,you wont die from it and you can go down to 0mg nicotine and just enjoy the flavours",because thats what i want to do with that stuff. what you said is like if i said dont be a p*ssy,if you cant continue riding trials due to health problems,stop riding all kinds of bicycles completely. this is the happy thread,i´m happy about it.simple as. not the right place to get in the usual "the world vs familybiker" arguments,as i said,opinions

what does adm even mean? can imagine lgm to be "light grind,magura" or something

for me its like smoking,but less harmfull,plus the bonus of the technical stuff like mixing liquids and wrapping atomizer wicks diy,makes it kind of a hobby. sorry for you,sure it was the e-cigs?

i dont charge any batteries unattended,and always on a fireproof glass table. they dont "explode",they "gas out",which can cause fire.the case in america in which that guy blew half of his tongue up was his own fault:he built the battery carrier himself and didnt put holes in it to relieve the pressure if the batt gasses out,and it did.every e-zig batt you can buy has a pressure relieve system. 12-13 man.in fact its like with pc or game consoles:one has higher starting cost, and low consequential costs, and vice versa. in the first week i spent 40.- for a set of ego-t e-zigs and 15,- for nicotine liquids.same as with tobacco cigs. then i ordered nicotine base and flavours,now i mix that stuff myself in medicinal quality for 14€/100ml (liquids you can buy in a tobacco shop cost 6,95€/10ml(!!!),thats a joke).100ml lasts me 5-10 weeks,so its quite cheaper then smoking.and if a battery dies it costs 10,-,unless you want something with variable voltage to tune the behavior of your atomizers. i´d say give it a go,but strongly recommend an ego-t from joyetech with a ce4+ v3 clearomizer,theres barely a difference to a real cig. you can see it from my post,i like it so much

after 20+ years of inhaling tobacco smoke i now haven´t smoked a cig since 3 weeks,thanks to the electronic vaping. if you want to quit smoking get an ego-t or similar,so f*cking easy! btw ,for the people which would say "changing from smoking to vaping isnt quitting":nicotine itself has a fraction of the negative effects on health compared to the rest of the chemicals in a cig´s smoke,newest research came up with the fact you can vape up to 4 months and have inhaled the same sh*t as in one single cigarette. good choice,makes me proud and happy right now,i feel so much better in terms of health,and thats after 3 weeks

i got 170s and 22:17,fine too.with 22:16 it was like 22:15 on a 175 crank i had before that,so basically what dave said

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Truvativ-Holzfeller-2-2-Bash-Kurbel-36-24-Zahne-weis-NEU-/171036190746?pt=Sport_Radsport_Fahrradteile_Komponenten&var=&hash=item27d28d281a http://www.ebay.de/itm/TRUVATIV-HOLZFELLER-2-2RG-OCT-Kurbelgarnitur-36-24-Zahne-175-mm-Galvanisiert-/151181552996?pt=Sport_Radsport_Fahrradteile_Komponenten&hash=item23331f6d64 dont know if those are available for your country,but i got exactly that ones in black as a spare set from ebay for 65€,bargain ahoy! just sell the big chainwheel and bash and buy a 4bolt bash separately get a howitzer bb at every local bike shop just make sure you get a 2.2 version,the dh doesnt have holes for a 22t chainwheel! and:howitzer isnt isis,it has its own spline pattern (tapered splines),and external bearing cups instead of a simple bsa cartridge housing .com link,if the above dont work:http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=holzfeller&_osacat=7294&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xholzfeller+crank&_nkw=holzfeller+crank&_sacat=7294

truvativ holzfeller trials,serve me well since 3 years and no signs of giving up.comes completely in 22t with bash. youll need an howitzer bb with 148mm axle nice bike btw

yeah,but read the topic from the first post on,you´ll get kind of the assumption it were saints...

okay,then i was wrong,thought i read of them coming with saints,sorry he said he passed his saint to a friend,will get it back etc and there are icetech rotors on the bike on the first pics,seemed to match my conclusion... edit: i liked the post before mine,didnt even talk to him,but oh well

hey didnt think of that!!! joking aside,why would a 2400.- bike from last week come with those brakes,thats what i was wondering about. he couldve sold them to his friend though,he mentioned giving them away,then getting them back so i assumed them to be the stock brakes

hahaha,bionicon edison clone?

didnt the new saints have that new 1,5 finger lever like 596/xt have? the lever in that pic is a 2009 xt style saint one