no,no that was an awesome response,did mention a few things i already tried though.so first big thanks you took the time for that post!
for the bars rolling thing,i tried bar angles from tgs´ish "along the stem" to where it is now,first angles killed my right wrists discus mediocarpalis,which is basically the shock absorber in human wrists(will never fully heal again),tried and tried and came out at "along the headtube".
as for the brake levers,its the same,i already did that adjustment through trial´n error,so those two are pretty fixed values unfortunately.surprisingly i got no problems reaching the levers in almost "pointing straight down" position,sometimes it helps though because it kind of forces me to keep my wrists in a good position to the bars.
and as you said,2 degrees of bar angle can change much(provoke or prevent pain in my case)
i pretty much have to find a stem that feels a tad more trialsy with my bars aligned this way,i know thats not easy.
last resort would be lowish bars or flat bars and a long,steep(ish) stem(oldskool),as i could adjust the sweep without changig the position at all,seems like a big advantage of flat bars.
i never had any other than marino frames when it comes to trials,i only ever rode dirt/street bikes before i started trials riding.
btw did you ride flat bars anytime?if so,how do they feel?
thanks again for the detailed reply