Al_Fel

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  1. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/2019/08/coopers-landing-idaho-site-americas-oldest/ Our idea of history is changing all the time and human history is going back further and further. There's so much more to be discovered I think finds like this backs the idea of the possibility of lost ancient technology.
  2. But you seem to think that we should be finding all sorts of lost ancient tech if it existed? Surely tools from 12,000+ years on sites that were occupied by other cultures would be rarer and harder to find than stuff from 6,000 years ago? Am I being unreasonable here? Also if a core drill wears down then surely you couldn't cut to the maximum depth? That core is probably 5 inches long and its intact so my guess would be that the tool that cut it would have to be at least 5 inches long. You couldn't really make the argument that they use a smaller core and just keep snapping it off in my opinion. What ever method that was used seems to me to cut consistently and deep We are talking about 1,000's of years ago so obviously its not easy to find things. Plus you've got to add into the equation that the Romans turned Egypt over and who know's what they took? I'm not arguing against your point I agree with you. These core holes seem to be quite common to me so I'd expect there to be the odd tool found if it was the Dynastic Egyptians that cored them out.
  3. https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/17855124.39-39-s-rewriting-history-books-39----major-archaeological-find-discovered-off-isle-wight-coast/ I'm not using this as evidence of ancient tech. It's just a little reminder of how little we know for sure. New discoveries (1987) are still waiting to be found!
  4. It's not the 7th core its the 7th item from the list in the book. Nearly all the core holes seem to show similar markings but the question is are they in a spiral like core number 7? Here are some examples It's hard to tell from a picture but the lines looks pretty consistent to me. I agree its not a huge leap to assume they used what they had to make the core holes. It's still however an assumption of how they did it rather than a proven method. There seems to be a lot of core holes about but no tools capable of making them. Therefore ALIENS! (I am joking)
  5. How many cores like this exist? I'd Imagine not that many because they were the waste material. How many of them are available for testing? Most people seem to think it's impossible and wont entertain the possibility so its not worth the time/effort/money in doing any testing. Where's the evidence of the Egyptians having tools capable of drilling these core holes? There's been plenty of tools found but none of them seem to be able to produce a core hole? If the spiral was made from withdrawing a jammed tool then they removed it one direction, in a consistent and continuous motion. I personally have drilled core holes into brick before and when it gets stuck the core snaps and the only real way I personally have found to get it out is to wiggle it. Totally different tools, methods and material I know but I'm just sharing my experience. That's impressive and accurate.
  6. Ok that's your opinion. Care to explain how a spiral groove could occur on the core? Also this is aimed at forteh because he is a clever bastards and knows a lot about engineering. How would you say they drilled these holes in the corners? If you look at the right hand side of the picture it looks like a small lip on the inside corner. Could that be from some kind of machine mark or even some kind of jig that's been used? 2:34 on the video you see a line about a foot down from the top going from left to right. Surely you wouldn't see something like that with chisels? I'm not being funny I'm just curious what your take on how they did it would be.
  7. When you put it that way I can see where you are coming from. I've got lost in the mystery and I've bought into the crazy theories that are going round. Fair enough. You say there isn't a shred of evidence but surely these mysterious structures all over the planet made with methods relatively unknown are some kind of evidence? A lot of the current theories don't seem to be based on solid evidence as far as I can tell. By that I mean the current theories jump to conclusions about the tools they must have used. For instance the cutting and drilling of huge granite stones. There's no evidence of any of these tools capable of doing such feats. By that I'm talking about large saw blades and core drill bits. So the best they can say is they had bronze chisels, ramps, rope and sleds so that's how they did it. As has been shown it is possible to work with hard stones such as granite with these primitive tools I totally agree on that. I personally don't think the time it would take to make all these objects in such a manner is realistic. You have the argument that they had nothing better to do and they were all slaves to the will of a King/God. Again this is my personal opinion but I don't think that was the case. I think they had other methods of working with the stone that we just don't know about now or understand. I'm not claiming magic abilities I'm talking about stuff that's been lost in history. I'm pretty sure we can all agree that the pyramids etc are amazing structures and there is a mystery about them. There is no solid evidence on how they were built so its all just a best guess scenario. I think its fair to say that these megalithic structures are world wide and some share very similar features. Also the methods used to build them seem to have been lost in history. What I see when I see the crazy people videos on YouTube are massive megalithic structures sometimes in ruin with much lesser work built on top. Then you see sites of mass destruction with stone work destroyed and recycled by other cultures after. If you take drill core number 7 and look at the spiral cut the one thing you have to agree is that whatever made the groves on the core did it in a continuous motion. Whatever method that was is different to using a bow and back and forth motion which is what is believed to be the method of cutting core holes. Let's say it was just crank on the top and someone was cranking it round with their hand, there's no evidence of them using methods or tools like that. So as simple as that is I'd still say it was a lost technology. I think most people probably think my idea on all this is that they had anti gravity platforms and lasers and all crazy Alien (to us) tech. I really don't! I think it was all done with relatively simple technology or methods that we just don't know about today. I've used the word advanced technology and that probably throws people off. The example of the Roman Concrete is a good one. We have concrete now but their concrete was better than ours is today. I'm probably contradicting myself with what I've just said but I think its a very interesting subject and I'm enjoying learning more about it.
  8. Wow I am stupid. I googled it and saw 20,000 tons as the world record for a lift. I read it as 20tons because I'm stupid. So yeah hahaha what a fool.
  9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brihadisvara_Temple,_Thanjavur There's a 25 ton dome and 80 ton granite block at the top of this tower. "Built by Tamil king Raja Raja Chola I between 1003 and 1010 AD" This kind of thing takes the shine off the Pyramids. If these feats were achieved so recently why is there no mention of how they did it? I googled it and I can't find a crane big enough to lift a 25 ton block at all never mind an 80 ton block 60 meters high. If anyone could show me a modern method of getting an 80 ton block up that high I'd appreciate it. Let's say they used a ramp. That ramp would be one hell of a construction. Anyone got anything to say about this? Bloody India seems to be another can of worms. These crazy feats of megalithic building really are all over the world.
  10. Right 500 years ago isn't that long ago really. I know there are windmills/water mills and stuff like that with complex mechanisms that used huge stones to grind flower. Not sure how old the windmills or water mills are but that could explain the rocks. I got a bit over excited with this one. I think his explanation is just him getting a bit too excited too. Anyway those 10 ton doors really are something! 5:30 in things get a bit more interesting.
  11. This guy gets off to slow start but things do pick up. The more I look into ancient times the more I'm blown away.
  12. Thanks for that! It's very interesting. That cheese was nuts haha. There's so much to still be discovered. I wish more people would put resources into learning more about our past. A few quotes from the ramp they found in Egypt: “It’s a stretch to take an alabaster quarry and say this is how the pyramids were built, because the pyramids weren’t built out of alabaster,” she says. “The way that the ancient Egyptians cut and moved stone is still very mysterious.” “We actually don’t know [their] mechanism of cutting hard stones like red granite,” she says. “And we still don’t know how the ancient Egyptians lifted blocks weighing hundreds of tons up the sides of the pyramids.” It really is still all a mystery. I know I get crazy but I'm a fairly logical and reasonable person (So I believe) It really does get to me when people just dismiss anything that isn't really plausible and chalk it down to just hard work and being a slave. Fair enough some of the theories I've suggested are out there I understand that. But to just ignore everything and accept the first answer is crazy to me. I'll give that podcast about Atlantis a listen. If you want to watch a crazy YouTube video on Atlantis then I'd say try this one out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5kEzxOb-3c&t=5s As you'd expect there's outlandish claims with virtually no evidence but at the same time I believe there's some good points being made.
  13. OK let's say they are all lying. I don't see anyone else sharing these amazing structures from around the world or questioning the current theories. I don't blame them for wanting to make money. We live in a society of e-begging now. People want your clicks I understand that.
  14. Capricorn ???> Sagittarius ???> Scorpio ???> Libra ???> Virgo ???> Leo the Lion: Could that be the sphinx?> Cancer ???> Gemini ???> Taurus: the bull: as depicted in India and a holy animal > Aries: the goat: Jew's are linked to this with the Rams horn > Pisces: the fish: Jesus is said to be a fisherman > Aquarius the water bearer: (bit of a leap here) Global warming causing the sea levels to rise.. Is all that a coincidence? or are these cultures influenced by the star signs? Anyone else feel free to fill in any blanks if you can think of anything? I'm just having a bit of a thought here. I don't know enough about the procession of the equinoxes but I do know it's a lot of calculations to work it all out. This is something that's been around for 1000's of years.
  15. I see where you are coming from. I'm imagining there wasn't that many of them about. I'm taking a few thousand maybe? I really don't have the answers. Maybe these elongated skull people are them and there's plenty of them about but people wont look into it because they might be seen as crazies? You're assuming you need something harder than granite to cut granite? Maybe they had a method of making the granite softer so it could be worked with virtually any tool or even a particular material. There might be some kind of frequency that makes this happen. If you look at the scoop marks at the quarries in Egypt you can see similar scoop marks in Peru and it looks like the stones have been softened and squashed together. This could very well be a totally plausible process that we just don't know or understand right now. The Romans had their own concrete that gets harder over time that we didn't understand until recently maybe its a similar situation to that? What if these elongated skull people have a different brain to us humans that can see things we can't? for instance different frequencies of light or magnetism or another some kind of thing that exists that we just don't know about. I know i'm really going out there with all this and there's no evidence to say otherwise but that's part of the fun of it for me. Please take it easy on me people I'm just trying to promote the discussion. I'll give that video a watch. Removing material to create stone structures at the source is found in Peru and Egypt. I shared the videos of the huge columns in the original thread and I was told it could have all been done with a hammer and chisel. Plus it's all in soap stone which is a very soft stone. There it is. I look at that and I see a giant lathe. To suggest it was all done by hand doesn't make any sense to me. There's also sculptures of tiny skulls on there too that blow me away.