I do get the hump quite easily on here because people seem to think they can get away with bitchy comments that they wouldn't say to your face most of the time. I'm actually a very easy going person and always up for a laugh and a joke. I just don't like people thinking they are high and mighty on this and saying something a bit nasty because they can get away with it. When I say "get away with it" I don't mean I'd slap someone if they said something like that to my face I'm totally not like that at all. I'd just say something back to them.
Anyway back to the frame. What I said about it was totally aimed at you being an engineer in my retaliation for you trying to make me look like an idiot.
I do think that the seat stay tubes are longer than they need to be and could make the rear brake a lot stiffer if they where shorter and the plate was welded about an inch lower down.
I get the impression that Onza are just in it for the money. They seem to get a load of proto frames built up and what ever people like the look of they go for using this forum as a litmus test. I think adding to the fact they don't pay for advertising just shows how money hungry they are.
I'm not saying Onza are a bad company. The whole idea is to make money. I really like some of their cheaper bikes and they are a great way of getting people into the sport. I just find that their higher end stuff isn't as well thought out and designed as it could be. I'm not saying I could do a better job either but that's why I'm not in the business of making trials parts.
So basically what I'm trying to say is I "think" Onza made the frame because people showed interest in the prototype and they could sell it and make money.
This is all my opinion and from what I've personally experienced. If you don't like it that's fine with me.
Matt I apologise for being an arse.