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There has to be SOMEONE VAT registered.... It's not hard.

**SLAP**. Of course, I thought it might have been adjustment for different disc sizes at first. I don't think it looks horrible, but I'm not particularly attracted to it either. It just looks like a trials frame... Horizontal drop outs are useful as you can run without a rear mech on single speed. But I'd sooner have a rear mech so that it's sprung. My chain rings always end up more worn at one point from too much pedal hopping, so it goes lose/tight if it's in a fixed position.

What's with the huge disc mount holes? Doesn't that cause any issues?

My parents live in Italy, so I use it a lot. It's pretty good. But I think my ISP is pretty poor - it's fine at work. But on NTL it's useless. But that could be the World of Warcraft lovers in my household screwing things up... Not had much time to work it out.

I got very little of very little. It's gonna be a short video. However, give me a time and a place and I'll get plenty

I filmed, not photographed! And I'm still working on it.

Do you want to ride street or natural? Will you be Sofa Surfing?

I think the only film I've actually broken down in tears to, was Frankenstein, the one did in the late 90's. I really felt for the monster. Apart from that, I seem to remember getting quite close with Forrest Gump. Amazing film.

Hehe. Yeah, that is me. Nice pic too! Considering I was borrowing other peoples bikes all day, to actually be included it pretty cool That green is growing on me... If that Hope hub was brand new, chances are it's a manufacturer defect, so guys, don't go panicking!! They're still mint hubs (says the man who missed the ride because his Pro II died last week...). At the end of the day, we're both getting them replaced free Trust Matt to get dazed by his reflection..... (ooh me nips..) I'll whip out my camera now and see what I filmed Even if it makes a short 1 minute video it's better than nought.

I think my piss-pot cost me £20 and it's shiny and red. I like it. Bell I think?

Crikey.

9? Did he have a tyre, or just riding with his tube exposed?

Yeah, you did miss out....

I think that was innevitable with that many people... There must have been at least 70 at one point.

Why miserable?? What did I say?? Oh my therapist won't hear the end of this....

Good ride, good to see everyone and put some faces to names. Pity I didn't have my trials bike, but I had a bit of a laugh on Tall_Robs Just hope nobody got any pictures of me on it it didn't have discs!!!! :o Had a bit of a fall at the end and I *thnk* I might have fractured a rib, but we'll see how that goes. See you all at the next one once my wheel comes back from Hope I did get some filming done, but not much. I might make a short one and put it up. If you want me to host those pictures for you, more than happy to do so over @thinkbikes.com, but I'm sure you've got something sorted already

"Eat meat and ride." LOL. I'm gonna make that my motto

Yeah, that can happen. The KOT MS2 doesn't have that issue though, muchos recommended. I would say if you're a true beginner, avoid discs altogether. there is a high chance you'll hit them. But it would be a good idea to have your bike setup to move to them later. So get disc hubs etc.

Well, I have no wheel. But I'll do some filming instead. It's a big ride, so probably worth getting a video done

Well my wheel is ****ed and not being picked up until tomorrow, so I won't have it back until next week. I may well turn up though and do some filming instead.

The only difference I've found going from an Orange Zero to a KOT MS2 (+45mm IIRC), is that it's a lot more comfortable on the back wheel. But that could also be because of the extra length. I have my stem quite high to compensate for the high BB rise...

J'agree.

That was irritating. Riding for some 30 mins and then the bike breaks. Looks like I won't be riding London on the 3rd either because of it. Think I need to send my wheel off I might come anyway and do some filming.

The rohloff's are well worth the money.

Right. I'm thinking of heading off now. I'm about 30 mins away. Anyone want to meet me? 07886588941