Now riding with a king on my bike I wonder how I ever rode with am xc, they are so sloppy and it feels like there isnt' anything there. Yeah the pro II hubs are better but they don't have that feel of a king, I have seen pro II hubs skip aswell. I'd be happy to ride with either, but given the choice if the hubs were given to me i'd have a king no question. It's only that the hub was on the bike when I bought it, if not I would have probly got the pro II because of the price, failing that a 2nd hand king. People need to stop following fashion, kings are not shit hubs just because there is a trials specific hub from hope, same goes for people saying the hopes are shit, they aren't, it has to be the best ratchet+pawl hub around.