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Yeah I added the brackets to show my working, basically doing the addition first before any of the subtraction.

Acording to bodmas. 1+2-3+4-5+6 (1+2)-(3+4)-(5+6) (Addition first) 3-7-11 = -15 But the correct answer would be 5.

Well my google spellchecker didn't underline it with a red squiggly line so it must be a word!

No the Church of England has actually been banned from preforming gay marriages, but I'm having a hard time understanding why. As far as I can tell, because the Church of England is the countries official religion, it's not allowed to be discriminatory so they banned them from doing gay marriages so as not to cause issues.

So -10 and 10 have no difference?

Why? Clearly the best thread on TF this year!

I get it now, I still think if you're working with bodmas you'd still add the 2 and the 10 together regardless of all that, I mean bodmas specifically tells you to do the addition first not matter how contradictory it is. But yeah just goes to show how bad bodmas is as a teaching technique.

12?! The answer is either 10 or -10 depending on how you look at it. When I talk about the 12 I'm talking about the 2 plus the 10. You can ignore bodmas. The fundamental problem with it is that bodmas states that division and addition have priority over multiplication and subtraction. When in fact they do not. Multiplication and division have the same priority and should be worked left to right, then after that same with addition and subtraction. Hence the answer to my example is 10, not -10 because you would do the 2-2 first before adding the 10.

So does (+2) - (+2) + (+10) = ? Make any difference to what we're talking about? You're still adding the 2 and the 10 together to get 12 according to bodmas regardless.

Well first of all you're saying -2 with no space. The question I stated has no negative numbers in it. You end up with 2 - 2 + 10. I don't really get why (when we're doing this strictly by bodmas rules) you'd do anything other than the 2+10 first.

Well once you've done all the multiplication and division, you're left with 2 - 2 + 10. Bodmas states that you do the addition first, which when you do you end up with 2 - 12. I'm only adding in the brackets to make it clearer. I really don't get where the problem is here and I don't really get what you're saying.

You add together the 2 and the 10 because that's what Bidmas tells you to do (to do the addition before the subtraction) But you're totally missing my point, I know the answer is 10. What I'm demonstrating is that Bidmas is wrong and if you follow it you'll get a wrong answer. You're telling me I'm doing it wrong, when I'm purposefully doing it wrong.

Do the division first so 4 x (2 ÷ 4) - 2 + 10 Then the multiplication (4*(2/4))-2+10 Then the Addition (4*(2/4))-(2+10) So then you have 2-(2+10) which equals -10. That's what you get when you use BIDMAS, but it gives you the wrong answer.

If I included brackets it would be a little pointless... I got them the wrong way round, edited. Using podmas or bidmas or whatever will get you -10 because you'd be taking away 12 at the end instead of subtracting 2 then adding on 10.

tug again = sleep.

Because you studied math before facebook and trolls were invented. I know the question was rhetorical but I chose to ignore that.

7+7/7+7x7-7 = 7+(7/7)+(7*7)-7 =7+1+49-7 =50 Although, Bodmas, pidmas or whatever you use is fundamentally wrong. For example 4 x 2 ÷ 4 - 2 + 10 = ? This actually equals 10. Not -10.

Why has the CoE been banned from preforming homosexual marriages?

Wow, I just did some reading into all this. Turns out that homosexuals can get "married" in the guise of a 'civil union' where they receive the same legal rights as a married couple. However churches can't legally host a civil union... what a f**king mess.

It's a hot topic out here right now. I think only 3 states allow gay marriage, and not many more states will recognize that marriage in their own state. For me it's a big deal for two main reasons. Firstly, as someone who relied on the benefits of marriage to be with the person I wanted to be with, if I was born with a different orientation and I was gay, and was in the same situation I was in and met a guy online, there'd be no way I could get married and I would have unresolved problems in the relationship because of it. I think this is totally unfair and is other people's religious beliefs effecting people's lives, which in this country is totally unconstitutional. Secondly I have a friend who's gay, but was married and living a straight life when I became friends with him. I can see how social stupidity can effect people's lives first hand. I've ultimately never heard of one good reason why gay marriage should not be allowed. Churches should not be forced to marry homosexual people. However it depends on whether they're receiving tax payers money, or tax breaks, if they are then they should be made to be non discriminatory, and if they aren't non discriminatory then they should lose these benefits.

I'm very impressed, Most I can handle is a bite from a Jalapeno. Something like that would have me crying in the corner.

I'm currently a legal resident. To become a citizen I'd have to go though all this shit. I probably will never do it. I got 60% http://www.800citizen.org/us_citizenship_test/american_citizen_test/ if anyone wants to take a bash at it. Seems to make more sense than than the UK one... kind of. (I picked MN as the state). I have never had a visa, went straight from 'out of status' to 'legal resident'. EDIT: Changed the state to Kentucky and got 100% over 10 questions.

5am. Because that's when the Night time TV shows end and the kids shows start.

No, because the questions will be random.