I think they ride real nice, the geometry of the frame makes it feel lush, and the bb rise is not higher enough (+35) to effect my riding abilities in a bad way but makes the bike ride better in my opinion. i also like the length of it, i thought i would struggle at first coming from a revell (1030mm wheelbase i think) to my aorta now which is 1070 which i find a nice length. over all though its a oh and the v brake is nice, but at times i could do with a lot more power.