Why can't manufacturers make both high and medium/low bb rise frames? It's ridiculous how trials geometry always goes into extremes. 6 years ago Echo made all their frames with a high bb (well, Czar, Zoo, Adamant and GU). Most people hated that so they stopped and all that remained on the market was a heap of low rise frames because that's all that the other brands were making at the time. Now suddenly it's going into the extremes again, Koxx is doing a +70 stock and it's becoming difficult to find a +30mm frame because everyone else has followed suit. I've been wanting to change my Zoo for something with a lower bb and shorter wheelbase and there isn't anything out there! Just the Cannibal V3 which (if Tarty's measurements are to be trusted and not Ozonys's) sounds good. I wonder when Mr. Koxx, Mr. Monty and Mr. Echo decide that actually high bb was a bad idea and only produce low bb frames, this time giving no choice to riders who want more rise