Chaotic3vil

Awesome riding man! really smooth in some parts. Was really nice to watch and ride with you last year. Bring on part 2.

Nice project! Awesome that there's people over here doing interactive stuff. Tryout touch designer. I'm currently trying to get along with it and its seems like jitter on steroids.

Aluminum doesn't do the job. It's not just about manufacture and gussets. Aluminum is not the best choice material for a durable bike. If we had more people pushing the envelope in terms of riding you'd see all sorts of different brand 24" frames breaking like sticks.

Some smooth parts... Awesome.

Well yeah this year isn't going great in terms of riding.. I had quite a few health /financial problems this year that put me off the bike unfortunately. Video is not forgotten though. My back still has some recovery to make, but Im looking forward for the next months when the weather brightens up.

Frames with 74/75º seat-tube angle look weird. Really like the laid back stance that 71/71º STa gives. As for the change of the head-tube angle, seems that they went for the right direction.

Bike looks good. Looks proper in terms of geo and components.

You can ask whatever set up you would like I guess. But I would go for standard ISO 160mm so that you change to whatever setup you want.

From what Im experienced it took time to arrive but It was worth it, came exactly as I wanted with some interesting features like integrated 135mm headtube, heat-treated and custom gusset. I have my frame for about 7 months so far. And its holding up great. The heat-treatment makes it a bit sturdy with not to much flex which was my main concern regarding steel frames. Its holding up nose dives and whips without twists or cracks so far, I check it regularly. I've cracked 2 high-end aluminium frames in about 7/8 months during a tough periods of riding so I'm always checking my frames. Its the only input I can give on Marino frames so far. Here's a link to my bike: http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/182824-my-marino-24-streettrials/ The geo is similar to yours: - 995mm WB - 375mm CS - 75º HTa - 72º STa - 25mm BB+

90x10 is a good choice with a lot of stackers. I enjoyed the 90x10 on the fourplays I had. Gives you good reach but you need to put more power down to get nice pop which turns the bike a bit more sluggish. This marino is short WB and has a 75 HTa which is definitely asking for a higher stem/bar combo. Its funny because even though I have less horizontal reach than with the 90x10 the bike feel way more trialsy. Feels like short MOD without the huge stem which is nice for rotations, barspins and general handling.

I was running hope 90x10º stem. At the moment i'm running a 90x35º stem. Feels way better. Less angle feels better for barpsins though, but you get a good trialsy compromise with the 90x35.

I'm still using 20mm stackers because I'm not keen on cutting the steering tube. The bike feels good. Rides a bit like a mod with the big bar rise. Still thinking if maybe a 70x35 stem would be better.

Thanks for the comments. Havent been riding too much lately due to other commitments but Im hoping starting filming in a short while with the marino. The bike feels really good. Just upgraded it with a 100mm rise NS District Bar and a 90x35 stem. Feels even better now.

I would say the same thing, but he executed them properly which was awesome to see. Definitely one of the best ambassadors of our sport in terms of image. Seing that small seat was a good laugh. Producer/Director: " How to but this weird bike looking normal?" ... "humm".. "humm"... "SEAT!!!"

Nothing more reliable than a good hub with a strong 10mm / 14mm axle bolt tightened with long wrench. If the frame is well made and the bolt sits perfect 90º on the dropout there's no problem at all. Mech hangers break and weigh more, inner bolts on the dropouts are equally bad because it's more prune to cracks after some abuse. Only advantage on mech hangers is the like manuel said, geo accuracy, but I rather prefer fiddling and changing chains after 4 months than bashing the tensioner.

Really enjoyed your style. Video was good!

Looking good! You can't run over dog shit with that seat and tire clearance though.

Looking good. Now go do them finishing a rail gap. That would be sick!

Yeah and its true. But a month ago the 50D was uncovered as a "raw monster" mainly because theoretically could have more resolution then the 5D. They have the same internal speed with a CF cards but a full frame is bigger with more info. per frame than a APS-C sensor. But as far as development got the 50D speeds are around 70's mbs but it could be capable of 90mbs by the hardware. The 50D hack is in its early stages though. In one month they achieved alot already. Check it out.

The 50D is recording 1080p RAW ( ). It as the internals of the 5D (less the full-frame sensor) but was limited in some areas like not having video option, smaller sensor etc. You could get the body for 350€ weeks ago. Now I think prices are going up. As for canon thinking about their products.. not so sure.. They like to keep milking the cow as long as they can. It's a bit strange to see that a 4 year old camera is totally capable of Full HD Raw recording isnt it? There's not that much extra editing really, the workflow is a bit painfull because we are use to drag clips into the program and start right away. With organization and a good computer its not that much of an hassle and it's evolving. Soon enough it will be possible to read raw. files in Ae or Pr. I read somewhere that GingerHDR plug-in already reads RAW. in AE. Didn't test it though. I get what your saying. I just think this "hack" gives people a pretty good bang for the buck. I dunno how things work there in the UK but here big companies are starting to get their image work done on small/medium sized companies due to the economical instability. And one of these rigs could give a good second angle or a backup camera to a RED cam, or even be a main camera if properly tunned up. You don't need a RED cam for webvideos or TV ads regarding resolution, but I guess they still get used because of dynamic range. Never fiddled with REDcode but I guess it still need some kind of conversion to Prores442. I could be wrong though.

I only found out this. The unified version is the stable one for almost all canon's. Best thing of ML is that it gives you tools to have more control over you're image. Focus picking to not miss focus seeing on the live view, zebras to see which part of your image is overexposed etc. If you into photography/videography its an awesome tool. If you cant be bothered and if you have a point and shoot kind of relation then the ML will get you a bit confused because it have a lot of features that need some fiddling and understanding. Your 550D can film RAW with some ML builds (not unified) but the recording time is limited, mainly because rebels where build after canon factory cut backs. Speeds and limited to 20mb/s or something along those numbers. 5D and 50D where designed before the cut backs which gives them 90mb/s in theory.

RAW will not let you be more sloppy. On that sky shot for example, on h.264 he would have to choose either to expose to highs or lows, he would lose somewhere for sure. Even with RAW you can't miss a correct exposure when shooting, its not that forgiving, it just gives you more points of dynamic range to choose from going from a 8 bit compressed codec to a 14 bit uncompressed. Its definitely a different workflow and yeah maybe its overkill for a bike video, but like I said any person that is into video will appreciate to fiddle with it. Its funny how workflow changed during the years, from film where you can't preview shots on the spot, time consuming developing film, to magnetic tape where was a "big" hassle rewinding to preview, 2 hours importing a cassette to current times with SD and CF cards where everything is "light speed". In the end everybody managed to get what they wanted and worked around those problems a still produce quality stuff. For example the skate/bmx VX100 hype. Its an obsolete camera but for some people the looks overthrow the workflow. My point is, having the possibility to have RAW recording camera for 350€ is just simply awesome, specially when you'd only get that quality with 20k cameras. Maybe there are better cameras for this purpose but you have to splash some serious cash on it. And the one's that are cheaper have micro 4/3 sensors. Right now with a 50D (aps-c) or a 5D (full frame) you can shoot your regular h.264 and in seconds switch it to RAW for a particular shot, an advert work, film etc. I think that having that option is on of the biggest pros for independent film makers. I can't see any cons when youre taking 14bit RAW full HD from a 350€ camera that was obsolete till ML cracked it open like the non video dslr 50D. And its still on development, 2K raw and HDMI out is getting there. 2K raw to a SSD Hard drive will make the workflow easier and good recording times.

Yeah it will never be full quality but you'll still get better quality filming RAW and export it to h.264. Filming straight out h.264 will give you way less detail, dynamic range etc. With 14bit RAW its so much information in each frame that you can fiddle way more in post to get exactly what you want. Try it out, import dngs sequence to AE and fiddle with the ACR or any color grading tool, its amazing how much detail you can get. The workflow is painful though but it always depends on the propose and your editing rig. I guess for low light, details and scenic shoots its pretty good having that option and its definitely different to look at than native h.264. Edit: Check it at 0:45, I bet that sky would be way overexposed and unrecoverable in h.264 for good exposure on the shadow where Kevin and the wall are at.

Good footage. Good riding! Workflow must have been painfull though. I have a 50D laying around. Be playing with some 14bit raw footage and 3gb a min is crazy but its totally worth it if you're into color grading or video in general. Raw footage is just awesome. ML wins once again.

Whats the weight of this frame?