Muel Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 One word: badgerDefinately. That's not bad going, but lighter tyres and headset are needed if this lot are to go by!My bike is 8871g, so his is probably lighter than my Mod. Doh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Am I right in thinking that he's converted a double wall into a single wall rim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 you are.people saying stuff like "I think if i sat on it, it would break" are just being daft, have you actually seen the stuff he does on it . It looks ace. whats strange though is he basically runs the company so if koxx are supposed to be all lightweight and comp oreintated why doesn't he make the hole out of the head tube standard and single wall square holed rims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 seems like he's taken small bits of weight off by chopping bits off the frame and hubs etc, when he could save a whole lot more weight elsewere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Hops_Alot Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I don't like it, i think it looks ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 you are.people saying stuff like "I think if i sat on it, it would break" are just being daft, have you actually seen the stuff he does on it . It looks ace. whats strange though is he basically runs the company so if koxx are supposed to be all lightweight and comp oreintated why doesn't he make the hole out of the head tube standard and single wall square holed rims?Probably because even with round holes try-all rims aint that strong... I love it tbf its a comp bike so it has to be light, wont snap that easy anyway he does huge stuff on his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Probably because even with round holes try-all rims aint that strong... I love it tbf its a comp bike so it has to be light, wont snap that easy anyway he does huge stuff on his.Try-All rims are amazingly strong for what they were designed for, Natty and comps, obviously on street they are not that strong compared to an Echo or whatever.I have had 2 rears, solid as f**k, the build felt a little bit stiffer than with the Monty I have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 not being picky, look at the picture of the close up of the hub... then look at the picture of the full bike... have you noticed what i have.....well the close up picture has straight laced spoke's but the full bike isn't...not causing a argument, i just spotted it.....BACK TO TOPIC,yes i like the bike but not to sure on all the bit's that have been done to it, the head tube is just frightening.and the reason why rim's dont come with square hole's is because the corners are more likely to crack and split than the round hole's that try-all and most other makes use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Am I right in thinking that he's converted a double wall into a single wall rim?It would appear so.And by the looks of it, clingfilm for rim tape (yes, I know it's not, you're an arse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 not being picky, look at the picture of the close up of the hub... then look at the picture of the full bike... have you noticed what i have.....well the close up picture has straight laced spoke's but the full bike isn't...I think it does, there's a slight angle to the front wheel which makes it look like theres a crossing in the spokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I think it does, there's a slight angle to the front wheel which makes it look like theres a crossing in the spokes maybe you're right...ooppsssbut it does look like it's not straight spoked though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny.p Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I bet hes got helium in his tyres lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomy P Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Absolutely ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Getting rid of that try-all tyre at the front and fitting a maxxis high roller XC tyre would save him 100g. 560g for a 1.9 and 575g for a 2.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Elson Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 all i hope is we dont see the first death of a champion lol i think he is at the very limit ov how far the components can be modified to save weight how much further will he go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 you are.people saying stuff like "I think if i sat on it, it would break" are just being daft, have you actually seen the stuff he does on it . It looks ace. whats strange though is he basically runs the company so if koxx are supposed to be all lightweight and comp oreintated why doesn't he make the hole out of the head tube standard and single wall square holed rims?cos he knows it WILL break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 ' awaits holes in tyres' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Shaw Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Getting rid of that try-all tyre at the front and fitting a maxxis high roller XC tyre would save him 100g. 560g for a 1.9 and 575g for a 2.1.He is sponsored by Try-all and Koxx though?I love this bike, to get it below 9kg is very impressive! The majority of top spec mod bikes weigh more than 8.8kg.I think you have to take a look on it as though its the F1 car style trials bike. Meaning taking things to the limit on performance and getting away with as much as you can! He won't ride that bike much at all I reckon. I've seen his minder pushing around a spare bike at comps which I think is his practice bike.Stan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 well fair do's to him, its impressive hes minimised weight so well. but as im NOT a weight weenie:hahaha like rowen said, have a crap, shave your body and ride naked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zordon Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 well fair do's to him, its impressive hes minimised weight so well. but as im NOT a weight weenie:hahaha like rowen said, have a crap, shave your body and ride nakedCould also have the dick and balls amputated, one kidney removed etc. From what I've seen on vids, many riders could do well without their brain. They don't seem to use theirs while riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 (edited) could the forks not be drilled at all?or would it weaken them too much?And this may be a horribly stupid Q but would Vs not be lighter?or has he got something to do with magura? Edited February 11, 2008 by Benjaminge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 i need a new tyre , my comp x is slick.24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 people saying stuff like "I think if i sat on it, it would break" are just being daft, have you actually seen the stuff he does on it . It looks ace. whats strange though is he basically runs the company so if koxx are supposed to be all lightweight and comp oreintated why doesn't he make the hole out of the head tube standard and single wall square holed rims?Regarding your first point, exactly. He wouldn't f**k it about that much if it wasn't actually going to work for it's intended purpose, simply 'cos I imagine comps, and winning comps, means a hell of a lot to him.Regarding your second point, I doubt that bike would be ridden for more than one or two trials, whereas production bikes are going to be ridden by the general public for a lot longer. Doing all that stuff to it would also mean that it'd be way more expensive to produce, even if they mechanised all of the changes he's made.seems like he's taken small bits of weight off by chopping bits off the frame and hubs etc, when he could save a whole lot more weight elsewere!True, but at the same time he probably sacrificed as much weight as he could without changing the feel of his setup? So if he's used to using Try-All tyres (And is of course going to have to use them...) you wouldn't want to change to something else, just 'cos it's lighter. I imagine that drilling the forks would not only be really dangerous, but would also make them super flexy which would mean for taps, gaps to front and so on it'd feel totally different. Apart from the difference in weight, I doubt you'd even feel any added flex in that frame, and similarly if the wheels are built well you won't really notice the difference in strength there, but you would notice the change in weight.I love this bike, to get it below 9kg is very impressive! The majority of top spec mod bikes weigh more than 8.8kg.I think you have to take a look on it as though its the F1 car style trials bike. Meaning taking things to the limit on performance and getting away with as much as you can! He won't ride that bike much at all I reckon. I've seen his minder pushing around a spare bike at comps which I think is his practice bike.Stan.Exactly. He's at the forefront of trials, so I'm glad he's trying this stuff out and not just cobbling together a bike out of stock parts. It's about time people got more hands on with their trials bits!well fair do's to him, its impressive hes minimised weight so well. but as im NOT a weight weenie:hahaha like rowen said, have a crap, shave your body and ride nakedI know you're joking, but saving weight on yourself is nowhere near the same as saving weight on your bike. If you were trying to win the top level competitions in trials, I'm pretty sure you'd do the same stuff to your bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 yer to be honest thease guys are very fit!taking a dump means f all!realy bugs me when people say "just take a shit instead".he knows what hes doing!hes better than you lot! remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I think that you could make that a good half pound lighter by cutting that stupid fin on the back off.I hate there frames, their hidious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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