ogre Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 why is the trialtech square holed rim cheaper and lighter than the SL version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmusson Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I noticed that aswell. Maby a typing error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dd Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) It is not, I ordered one few days ago, that is just because it is newer model (09) a different thickness used or something like that. It is not an error as tarty told me. Edited December 4, 2009 by 3dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted December 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 but there selling it as light, when there are lighter + cheaper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dd Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Lets just say they renamed it? Same as the Echo Sl clamps are heavier than TR. It doesn't make any difference.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Well if something is cheaper and lighter, usually means it's not as strong. *Shrugs*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Arnt square holes weaker? Edited December 5, 2009 by Jamie_Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 It's a 5g difference, different rims of the same batch often fluctuate by 50g. (Or so I'm told). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 It's a 5g difference, different rims of the same batch often fluctuate by 50g. (Or so I'm told).Weight fluctuation by 5% either way?Whoever told you that you need not to listen to them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 It's a 5g difference, different rims of the same batch often fluctuate by 50g. (Or so I'm told).Yeah, pretty much. Front rims are a bit more consistent though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Weight fluctuation by 5% either way?Whoever told you that you need not to listen to them again.This guy, + Tarty Adam. You need to stop jumping to conclusions my yankee doodle friend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 That's crazy how can something as precise as a rim be so inconsistent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 That's crazy how can something as precise as a rim be so inconsistent?It certainly is. As the die for the rim gets old it wears, meaning more material is added to the rim. There about 1.8m of rim in a 26" rim... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 It depends on how it's made. I think rims are extruded in a flat form first, it could pretty much be the case that more metal goes into one bit than the other.Sort of how car tyres have a thick bit so need wheel balancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Arnt square holes weaker?If it had sharp corners then it might be, but the Trialtech hole's corners are rounded off so it's not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 If it had sharp corners then it might be, but the Trialtech hole's corners are rounded off so it's not a significant problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Dude, read the rest of the thread. Yes it will matter what tolerances they work to, but it appears, pretty slack ones, otherwise they'd have to change the dies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Dude, read the rest of the thread. Yes it will matter what tolerances they work to, but it appears, pretty slack ones, otherwise they'd have to change the dies all the time.when you say all the time how many part you you think they get out of a punch and die, and im guessing these are cold worked?like i said i dont know what tolerances they work to must be an iso tolerance.... but even if the the puch and die wears 20-30mu then the rim isnt gonna be 50 grams more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 when you say all the time how many part you you think they get out of a punch and die, and im guessing these are cold worked?like i said i dont know what tolerances they work to must be an iso tolerance.... but even if the the puch and die wears 20-30mu then the rim isnt gonna be 50 grams more?HAHA they're probably all made in China/"the East", the manufacturers won't even know what ISO is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 HAHA they're probably all made in China/"the East", the manufacturers won't even know what ISO is. doesnt really mean that they wont work to a decent tolerance, because the die and punch must fit each other, other wise bang, get what im saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 doesnt really mean that they wont work to a decent tolerance, because the die and punch must fit each other, other wise bang, get what im sayingAren't they just extruded through a die?The punch for the holes isn't gonna be too affected by the wall thickness surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'm sure if it was a problem, one of the many, many Trialtech square-holed rims we've sold would've come back to us, or someone would have said something about breaking one of them on here? They've minimised the chance of getting any sort of stress risers on the corners of the holes by rounding them out, so what's the 'significant' problem with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 They've minimised the chance of getting any sort of stress risers on the corners of the holes by rounding them out, so what's the 'significant' problem with that?He said it was not a significant problem, presumably for that exact reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Yeah, but he appeared to be implying that there was still a problem with that, just that the 'significant' problem was removed. I was curious at to what those 'problems' might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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