foxinsocks Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Well, it boils down to two 26" stock finalists... and i can't decide! (and i've got 2 days to make up my mind, tops) On the right Corner - Zoo Pitbull Specs: Chris king rear hub. Echo urban forks, Middleburn cranks with Koxx bottom bracket . Echo stem and Zoo bars, Magura front disc w Magura rear hs33 rim brake Koxx tyres and rear Koxx rim, front Mavric wheel. On the left corner: Zona Zenith Tensile 96 click Free wheel Tensile Single speed kit Tensile CNC Crankset Magura Hs33 brakes Onza FLY guy Alloy fork Cane Creek C2 Headset and Onza Isis Bottom Bracket Legendary Hog pierced front and rear Rims on Onza sealed hubs Tried the Pitbull and loved the frame. Never seen a zenith though. Specs are both top notch. The only noticable difference is the Chris King hub VS the Tensile FFW. (Which is better?) Considering the lame paint job on the Zenith (Who said "WordArt?")- the pitbull looks better. But i'll strip the paint anyway. (Plus - i live in Israel, and in Hebrew, "Zona" means " Wh#re ". So if you thought avoiding all the "Where's your seat???" comments was tough... think again) My heart is leaning towards the Zoo, but its mostly cuz i know how good it is, while the Zona is a big unknown... So, am i missing something? Can anyone share any experience about the Zenith? Edited May 1, 2010 by foxinsocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapu Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 defenetly zoo... it has a better setup in my opinion , and from my expierence whith the pitbull they are preaty bullet proof and te frame looks original..not a VRacing design copy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Melson Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Zoo , really good spec and will ride alot better than the zona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 The zoo by a long margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Sweet, I like getting my opinion validated Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Canham Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 im gonna say the Zoo, much better spec than the Zona... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I'd say the Zoo, its a better spec and ive also heard that Zona's are really heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Get The Zoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_coggan Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Yeah get the Zoo they are good solid bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 You should have made this a poll, its easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-0 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Ill poll for you: Zoo 1000votes Zona 0votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted May 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Well, the verdict was unpredictable... Im going with the (*drums please....*) Onza Zoot (2009). Something came up with shipping prices, so its seems like the Pitbull is out of my budget. Then it was left out to a 2007 Toxsin VS. Onza zoot The toxsin is uber long... 390 chainstays and 1090wb. While the Onza just seems more... naughty The specs on the Toxsin are top notch, but the onza has all the needed upgrades (bb, cranks, stem etc....) so it doesnt fall too far behind. I have been riding trials for a while, so im not a total newbie, but i still want a bike to help me progress faster. Guess this is why i think i'll go with the Onza... simply because it looks more nimble. (plus, im super curious about it!) Am i being a total idiot here...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the trials mop Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 just checking you realise the zoot is a 24"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted May 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Sure... Thats whats so intriguing about it too:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I liked my zoot but in standard form it is a total tank. Is more fun with a longer stem by the way. The Zona is aptly named. Shame about the zoo because it is the best bike out of all you have mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) Zona frame by far...but Zoo for the spec Edit: I wouldn't buy a complete zoot personally...and those Tosxin frames don't look particularly inspiring to ride Any chance of getting that Zenith off ebay? Edited May 2, 2010 by Alex Dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickkkkk Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 iv'e ridden both and the zona felt so much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted May 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Well, neither the Zenith nor the Zoot are an option anymore (zenith is priced too high, Onza was sold a second before i took it) So im either gonna go for the Toxsin, or wait for something else. Im just having doubts about the toxsin frames. Cant find any decent reviews on them, and they dont looks too "inspiring" to ride. Its tough to judge just by looking at it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_coggan Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) Get a mod, stay away from the 24's and stocks. just out of intrest how much was that Zoo including postage? Edited May 2, 2010 by matthew_coggan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted May 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Nם thanks, im a Stock guy... Been riding stock for a long time, cant imagine getting a mod. besides, most of my riding is AM and XC riding, and i've been riding for over 10 years, so im totally used to 26" by now. About the pitbull... sorry, but i dont feel comfortable saying prices for other people. Thats something to ask the seller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philgresty Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 the toxsin frames are very good, had a 1, a 2, and a 20.1 and all have rode verywell, nice and strong, i wud go for the toxsin if i were you, it looks mint, like it hasnt been rode, hope this helps, phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted May 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Thanks, its good to hear some solid opinion. Could you compare them to frames like the Zoo/Echo? Having ridden the JackFlash for the past 2 years, i realized i also like to flow stuff. i.e - bunnyhops, spins etc... The Toxsin simply strike me as being very long. I cant even find decent pictures of it online (only pictures taken from an angle, which you cant see the frame angles from) ....got any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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