old boy chez Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 guys magura spent big money on hs33 ,and there is a good reson why there is royle blood in them.. yes water is great fast strong but and this is a BIG BUT it kills your brake . i have just spent over a hour trying to fix a brake that was run on water spring was rusted seal were not looking that good. what eles have you guys used to make, i have heard that riders have used..... baby oil, wd40 , anti freaze feel free to add to this list please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Baby oil sucks its really thick. I use water and a drop of soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Water and anti freeze, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMMM-JASON Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Wee wee is always a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantwhore Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Been running a maggie with water for at least 6 years now with zreo problems. Just a re-bleed once every 3 months or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 It shouldn't rust. If you lubricate the piston from the outside, it will be fine when used with water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old boy chez Posted May 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 It shouldn't rust. If you lubricate the piston from the outside, it will be fine when used with water. the spring is in side the piston can a sure you it was rusted to hell, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 not sure if the difference was as big for others, but id rather buy a new magura each year and keep a water bleed than go back to royal blood! not only has a more responsive brake no doubt saved my ass a number of times, the boost to my confidence and enjoyment in riding as a result is well worth it....along with the amount of people who havent had any problems with it in the first place, and the ability to quickly and easily get a perfect bleed, i cant see why id ever go back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 the spring is in side the piston can a sure you it was rusted to hell, It can only rust in the presence of water and air. If the spring was rusted it's been badly bled or has been sitting for ages unused in a partly filled state. I've also been using pure (tap) water for about 7 years with no problems at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This I use RO water, no mineral deposits, totally neutral never had a problem either. Oil in a maggie sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twista Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I've been using water bled maggies for 2 years now without a problem. I use tap water and anti-freeze/engine coolant. Haven't had any problems with seals yet, and the coolant has lube in it to keep all internal moving parts working well. I know George uses de-ironised water and anti-freeze to bleed his, might be worth a try if your really bothered about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe O'Connor Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Baby oil sucks its really thick. Yeah, and its hard to get your hands on it because people dont like it when you squeeze their babies to get the oil out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketas44 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 General preference really , i like the feeling of the lever a lot better with water than with oil feels a lot less spongy and lighter on the hand, so i use water even if i know that that kills my brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Water doesn't ruin your brake! *Awaits full theory on waterbleeds, by Onzaboymark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I had a water bled maggie which started leaking at the lever. Gone back to blood, and while the lever did feel nicer across its full stroke with water, I tend to hold the lever 'just off lock' anyway, so don't really notice the improvement when actually riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Water doesn't ruin your brake! *Awaits full theory on waterbleeds, by Onzaboymark. I have absolutely no interest in explaining it. No matter how much you point how good waterbleeds and so on are, people seem to love making up things to suggest why they apparently don't work (in ways that normal, mineral oil bled Maguras often fail too). So yeah - if people don't want to run a water bleed then cool. If they do, then that's cool - it works well and has a significantly better lever feel. Oh, but it does rape your warranty. Just gotta add that in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 It can only rust in the presence of water and air. If the spring was rusted it's been badly bled or has been sitting for ages unused in a partly filled state. I've also been using pure (tap) water for about 7 years with no problems at all. Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanuckleJive Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) To each their own, I run water and I realise that if I remember to keep the seals lubed and serviced, it's gonna last long enough to justify spending a few quid on the lube, and saving a lot more on royal blood. If it bothers you that much, run royal blood and let us run water? Edited May 11, 2010 by PeanuckleJive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old boy chez Posted May 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 If it bothers you that much, run royal blood and let us run water? you sir are very cheeky. 2nd time you been rude to me, i am sure you would not be as funny in real life.................. if rides like running water so be it but i have been riding a lot longer then you , been working with bike longer then you have been a live. i use to deal with magura on a weekly bases and i did talk to them about running water and the amout of probs due water being used was unreal. as the brake that i am building up is parts from old ill try the coolet to see if that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I've never bled my maggies, even my old blue mountains I had in 99 still work great and I bought them off a mate 2nd hand! May give em a bleed and if they're lucky some new fluid when they go back on my old skool rig and see if I can tell the difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanuckleJive Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 you sir are very cheeky. 2nd time you been rude to me, i am sure you would not be as funny in real life.................. if rides like running water so be it but i have been riding a lot longer then you , been working with bike longer then you have been a live. i use to deal with magura on a weekly bases and i did talk to them about running water and the amout of probs due water being used was unreal. as the brake that i am building up is parts from old ill try the coolet to see if that works. It's a forum dude, take a joke There are a lot of people with a sense of humour far more dry than that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Having read the first post, I have no idea how you managed to get the springs in the brake to rust. That's basically impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Having read the first post, I have no idea how you managed to get the springs in the brake to rust. That's basically impossible. Yea, but don't forget the guy is older than us, and has been riding longer than we've been 'a live' so he must know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1 Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Sorry to be a nauze guys, what are the benefits of having a water bled HS33? I've never had one, as far as I'm aware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Sorry to be a nauze guys, what are the benefits of having a water bled HS33? I've never had one, as far as I'm aware It's all about the lever feel, it's lighter and more responsive. It's also free assuming you don't get magic rusty springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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