rcdk Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Right im back afer a new frame again do i go pure or sl also any benifits from going 116mm over 135 is 116 stiffer/ ligher etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bella Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 normally 116 is for 20" and 135 is 26 though thre are some 20 with 135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdk Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Yes but u get whats called mod stock which a few companys are starting to build more of im just wondering if aside from the abvious if it would.be stiffer than a 135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i like cunning stunts Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 You wouldnt notice the difference no, more hubs to choose from in 135 form too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Only in terms of determining if you want to run a freehub or not. 135's only really there because people running freehubs was the norm (as far as I can see) With more and more people running FFW, I'd imagine theres less demand/ reason for producing 135mm spaced frames, meaning all the 135m spaced fixed hubs would just be surplus and wasted money on the manufacturer's part. Would be a way of cutting costs. All frames 116mm, only one hub spacing needed. Edited April 27, 2012 by Echo Lite 09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdk Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Kinda what i was thinkin plus runnin a 116 hub would be lighter than a 135 and probly abit stronger too now to decide between getting the pure in 116 or the sl in 116 as the only diffrence is 70 grams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gething Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 116 will result in a wheel less likely to have spokes snap, as the spokes are less angled. However saying this, the majority of rims made these days for trials feature offset spoke holes, reducing the risk of spokes snapping at the nipple end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Wouldn't quite agree with the above. There are very few 135mm hubs out there which actually make use of their extra width. Echo TR hubs for instance use the same shell for 135 and 116mm spacing. The reason Echo made frames in 116mm spacing is almost certainly because Koxx did it and Echo thought it would be a smart idea to follow suit. It's not a smart idea, it's retarded and they're already aware of their mistake. As for frames, they both have the same geometry. It's really a matter of whether you like gray or silver more. And if it's the former, you need to ask yourself whether you're a smooth rider or do you bash your bike as much as you do punctuation and spelling in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gething Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Suppose I am wrong, you are correct in saying the shells are the same. Most companies, as said went to 116mm when they saw Koxx do it. Why do you think it is 'retarded' Greetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Suppose I am wrong, you are correct in saying the shells are the same. Most companies, as said went to 116mm when they saw Koxx do it. Why do you think it is 'retarded' Greetings? Wider flanges=stiffer wheel would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdk Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 My spelling and grammer may be crap but my riding more than makes up for it i was simply asking is it worth the extra 95 to save 70 grams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Suppose I am wrong, you are correct in saying the shells are the same. Most companies, as said went to 116mm when they saw Koxx do it. Why do you think it is 'retarded' Greetings? Well because now if you want to change a frame, you have to change your hub too. And the spokes, and have a new wheel built. Slightly more complicated than just changing a frame. I can't see riders who own a Hope or King or any other high end hub they get along with being happy about having replace it for something inferior. They'll probably just buy a different frame. But if you need to change your hub anyway then 116mm spacing may have some minor advantages. Can't say that in the last 6 years I've ridden a stock bike I've ever had nocturnal emissions about going over to 116mm spacing. My spelling and grammer may be crap but my riding more than makes up for it Riding cannot make up for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Echo went 116mm in 07 and that died out... cannot understand why Koxx ( and thus echo ) have decided to go back to this. If anything, in my opinion, we should be looking at 150mm rear ends. Wider flanges=stiffer wheel would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 My spelling and grammer may be crap but my riding more than makes up for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 The reason Echo made frames in 116mm spacing is almost certainly because Koxx did it According to Echo, it's because it's popular in China, and so they catered for that market. They then released the frames to 'the West' and got a massive backlash, but I think they'll probably end up sticking with it as it means they only need to produce 2 hubs rather than 4, therefore saving themselves money when making complete bikes. In related news: cannot understand why Koxx have decided to go back to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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