peggysue Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Just recently purchased this crankset from tartybikes , using my existing trial tech 18tooth freewheel , and all fitted together nicely . The cranks have gone very stiff , takes some force to turn them either way . It got worse as the freewheel screwed itself on tighter . Myself and a mate can tell it's the bashing pushing against the outer teeth ring on the freewheel . If I didn't use the bash and instead used the supplied spacer , it wouldn't touch the outer teeth and sit lovely . But it seems the bash is an issue . Need a very thin spacer between bash and freewheel . Problem is I can't get the freewheel off now as the tool isn't available to buy .... Kind of stuck with what to do . I thought maybe the steel on the freewheel would wear away the aluminium gradually and ease off but it seems to be getting tighter . Anyone got any suggestions ? Not going to ride at this rate .. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 I take it you're running the bash the right way round? It has a machined step that should face the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggysue Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yes it is , the step sits against the crankset , helps stop the bash from turning when tightening the freewheel on for right footers Hi Karl, Ok we can sales you the freewheel tool for Urgent case. The freewheel tool is US19.9, also the bash ring for trial tech free wheel is US16.8, postage to UK is US9.8 by air. Total US46.5. Our paypal account: stepbike@hotmail.com Parcel will ready 1-2days after received payment. Thanks StepbikeJust had the above email from them , awaiting reply about the trial tech bash ring . First I've heard . Surely it wouldn't need a different bash ? All free wheels should sit the same ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Sounds like they're saying it's the Racingline bash that's the problem not the freewheel. Most bashrings have a slightly wider base and taper down to clear freewheels but it looks like Racingline didn't think that was worth bothering with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggysue Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Ummmm yeah same problem I saw but can't understand why it's not mentioned anywhere . If anything the bash tapers the other way , thin base and very slight 0.5 mm ish taper bigger to bash ... Maybe they've realised a mistake and are correcting it ? Can't see why I should be paying more for a different bash . I'll happily pay for the tool . Than wait for tarty to get some . Although shipping from America may take a while . Seriously pissed me off now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 If you can get the freewheel off you could modify the bash to add clearance (mill, lathe, angle grinder etc.) but you shouldn't have to. I'd give Tarty a ring tomorrow and see what they say. If it's a real problem with the design they should be able to sort something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggysue Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Hi Karl, Yes, the old bash ring is use for Echo freewheel, if you use Trial tech freewheel please use our new model bash ring and no need the thin spacer. Thanks StepbikeLatest email , looks like a design issue , there's nonway that freewheel is coming off without the tool . I weigh 18 stone so its going to be seriously tight now lol I might ask them to send the tool and bash for free , don't see why I should pay for a mistake they've made , and it's not mentioned on tarty or there website regarding different bashes for different freewheels . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 The pictures on the Racingline website seems to show a slight step (in the right direction)- is that a 'new' version or is that like what you've got? Either way I''d be speaking to Tarty if that's where you got it rather than getting bits from Stepbike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggysue Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Can't tell without looking at my bike but that little step as I mentioned looks the same as the problem I have . It's not machined high enough . That step sits on the outer teeth ring of the freewheel . If they machined it higher it wouldn't rub . Needs to be 2-3 mm more . Basically in line with the ring itself They are now sending me the bash ring for free , I'll still have to pay for the tool and shipping but at least I'm getting somewhere . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 We thought it would be a standard thing people know to check on installation as its not a crank specific issue, it would happen with any cranks, apologies. The back of the bash will wear away to create clearance (had the same myself in the past) but its not the ideal solution. Will have a look at some bits in the morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Got some cranks in front of me and a Rockman freewheel (same thing). Silly question, but... Is the bashring fitted the right way round? You mentioned it needing 2-3mm more clearance to the outer of the freewheel, the step that's meant to sit against the crank arm to prevent the bashring rotating is 2.5mm, the lip on the other side to give clearance to the outer of the freewheel is 1mm. Unless you mean radial clearance rather than lateral clearance? In this case I can see how it could be very very close (see attached photo) - if you want to post us your right hand crank / axle / freewheel / bashring we can machine the bash to clear. No charge of course, and quicker than receiving parts from Hong Kong. Just let me know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 All sorted, be back with you tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ. Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 All sorted, be back with you tomorrow Now that's customer service at its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggysue Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I did wonder when I saw these cranks how you would get the freewheel off, as a standard tool won't fit due to the axle size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I made my own tool out of a bit of scaffolding pipe I found in my shed with a Grinder. Worked a ok for me. wroth your while making your own unless they will be on sale any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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