isitafox Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Does it work? Is it worth upgrading from Mono Trial rotors? (Currently got a pair of Tech Trials with 180mm rotors if that makes a difference) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatpro09 Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I am running Hope E4s on 180mm Icetechs and have been for about a month after having run Hope floating rotors and developed some play. I instantly found the Icetechs had better hold and just felt stiffer in general compared to the Hopes, so I will say that the answer is yes to both of your questions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joaovidal12 Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm almost positive that Hope disks are thicker than Shimano's. I dont see any advantage in trials riding using the rotors Ice Tech technology. They are too rivited as the Hope floating disk. Hope's floating are great for everything except when they have to deal with suddent stops, they will develop play in the rivited sections. Or just explod like it happen to a friend of mine. Not recommended for street riding and even less recommend for trials! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm almost positive that Hope disks are thicker than Shimano's. I dont see any advantage in trials riding using the rotors Ice Tech technology. They are too rivited as the Hope floating disk. Hope's floating are great for everything except when they have to deal with suddent stops, they will develop play in the rivited sections. Or just explod like it happen to a friend of mine. Not recommended for street riding and even less recommend for trials! id ignore that ^ basically ice techs and rt76's are stiffer than normal discs which makes them feel a lot nicer, and theyre less likely to bend too because of the aluminium core. a rotor is a rotor, it'll work with any calliper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 They work, but Mono Trial ones will work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I am running Hope E4s on 180mm Icetechs and have been for about a month after having run Hope floating rotors and developed some play. I instantly found the Icetechs had better hold and just felt stiffer in general compared to the Hopes, so I will say that the answer is yes to both of your questions I switched from the Hope Saw rotors to Icetechs and also found a big improvement with both my Trial Zone and E4, but I'd say that the Icetechs are much more suited to a narrow bandwidth caliper/pad combo like the E4 compared to the Trial Zone. The wear marks on the rotor with the Trial Zone go to about half-way down the 'arms' that connect to the central section so I'm effectively losing about 15-20% of the potential braking surface for most of the time I'll be using my brake. I dont see any advantage in trials riding using the rotors Ice Tech technology. They are too rivited as the Hope floating disk. If you want to use that style of rotor I'd say the Shimano ones appear to be the best. I'm pretty keen on using them mainly because in a comparison from a 'solid' Saw rotor to the floating Saw rotor, there was a noticeable drop in noise from the rotors clanging around into the pads/caliper when you land spins and the like. On brakes with the Servowave setup where the pads naturally sit further away from the pads I don't think it'd be as much of an issue, but on my Hopes where the pads are always super close to the rotor it quietened them down a lot. They work, but Mono Trial ones will work better. This seems to be the case, primarily due to the bandwidth thing I mentioned before. When Ali made the switch he found he could downsize his rear rotor because it improved performance so much. When I need to replace my rotors I think I'll probably try and drop them both down to 180mm Mono Trials and see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Thanks guys, I'll stick with the mono's then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaovidal12 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 id ignore that ^ basically ice techs and rt76's are stiffer than normal discs which makes them feel a lot nicer, and theyre less likely to bend too because of the aluminium core. a rotor is a rotor, it'll work with any calliper. The point: Ice Tech technology will not have any effect in trials riding, no high temps are reached. They can be stiffer but they are rivited to aluminium spider, and IMHO not worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 there's no risk with Shimano rotors, after running them for years I'm quite happy to have my life depend on them. it's true the ice tech isn't beneficial to trials but they are slightly lighter, I'd still just use the standard non ice tech though personally. I also agree with Mark, if you're using a brake that has quite deep pads (Mono trials) then I'd get a rotor with a braking surface big enough for all the pad to hit otherwise the brakes not going to be getting it's full potential power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaovidal12 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Ali C : if you say so I believe. But I would be very reluctant in buying riveted disks. Weight wise there is no argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Perhaps not, but the added strength/stiffness you get with them certainly is worth bearing in mind though, as is the universally good feedback from riders using the Shimano rotors. Hope's floating rotors don't seem to be amazing (although the more recent ones with the stronger joins seem a bit better), but Shimano seem to have pretty much nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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