forteh Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 More time spent on designing the shifter Decided on getting the shell of the shifter printed so I had far more freedom with the design, will send it over tomorrow and see how the prints come out. Additional centreing leaf springs for the sequential shifter will be laser cut from 0.9mm stainless with the capbablitly to add more leaves in if more force is required. Still got to design a couple of clip on covers for the microswitch terminals and some wiring management. I wanted to get the removeable sequential cap to be stowable on the shifter body but it just didn't fit right no matter how I played with it. Will have to model the two aluminium spars that are holding the wheel to the desk so I can finalise how it's going to actually bolt down and be stiff enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 I'm currently keeping busy and making some bits for the Mr2. Some custom trailing arms and of course I had to get some TIG in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Making a man cave to make things in made a start, about to insulate the floor then lay ply over the top. I have a couple of choices... 1. 2. seems that ideally you lay brick across the joists (2) but that leaves a lot of unsupported edges. (1) leaves no unsupported edges but... Im leaning towards (1) because the doubled up beams are all supported at half lengths underneath and I want to lay maybe some more parquet on top any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Speaking with no authority whatsoever, but from everything I've ever made, instinct is screaming (1) at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 What insulation are you using? If you're planning on laying celotex slabs in between the joist then they will help support the ply floor to an extent (as long as it's supported from below). My gut instinct would be 1 and you can get away with thinner ply Don't trust me, I design shit cleaning equipment for a living, however I have recently insulated my van floor with joists and celotex with the original 10mm ply floor laid on top and it's completely solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamAllen Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 13 hours ago, manuel said: Making a man cave to make things in made a start, about to insulate the floor then lay ply over the top. I have a couple of choices... 1. 2. seems that ideally you lay brick across the joists (2) but that leaves a lot of unsupported edges. (1) leaves no unsupported edges but... Im leaning towards (1) because the doubled up beams are all supported at half lengths underneath and I want to lay maybe some more parquet on top any thoughts ? Personally Id stagger my boards (2) and add extra noggins in along the joining edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Another vote for 1 here, just because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 If you were using chipboard tongue and groove flooring then you would do it the second way. If you're set on using ply I'd do it the first way. Make sure you leave a few mm gap between each board or it will be creak like hell. Also Polyurethane glue is good to stick it down to the joists to help stop any creaking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Thanks - going with 1, just easier all round and shouldn’t cost too much in strength Made some progress today after a bomb scare at work meant I finished at 10:30! 100mm insulation in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Morris Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, manuel said: Thanks - going with 1, just easier all round and shouldn’t cost too much in strength Made some progress today after a bomb scare at work meant I finished at 10:30! 100mm insulation in. I called in that bomb scare. You’re welcome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Monster post ahead - sorry if you're just wanting to scroll past it... you might be a while The storms back in March did a real number on my garage roof. Water ingress rates off the charts etc. I wanted to do a full brick build, and even went on a course to learn how, but then the waste removal people wanted £1.4k to take the concrete, so I looked to fixing up and adapting instead. I like wood, and forests etc. and we have a little wild area/meadow at the bottom of the garden, so thought a rustic look might suit. This was intended to be a 6-week project, but Covid took massive effect on that and turned it into very nearly six months. Delays like having to wait almost three weeks for timber make for ridiculous frustration, not to mention just needing a hand lifting something onto the roof but because we're in the deepest stage of lockdown I can't make any progress for three weeks. Still - got through it in the end, and I'm pretty stoked on the results. There's mistakes everywhere, and lots of not-quite-rights because I was learning on the job, which was too big and complex for my comfort level, but also the floor is unlevel, the existing footprint isn't square, and the whole structure tilts to the side and back made for lots of irritation when perfectly square cuts didn't line up, so I ended up adopting a "that's close enough" attitude for a lot of it. Perfectionism sufferers may want to click away now. You've been warned! 1 - The original: 2, 3 and 4 - Inside the original: 5 - Emptying out: 6 - Fully empty and door off: 7 - Remove two side panels to put in a human-sized door, for which I had to remove a section of roof because those panels were holding it up in a way that totally wasn't 100% sketchy: 8 - Pressure-washed all over, and then lots of money's-worth of sealant all along the floor joints and part way up, just to be safe. (Inside and out.) 9 - Old shed facing boards recycled into containing strips, with more sealant to hold it in place for... 10 - ...self levelling floor compound! But not enough of it, as you can see. This was my first lockdown issue - there were only two 20kg bags left in all of the Screwfixes, Wickeses, B&Qs, and Toolstations in the entirety of West Yorkshire, and no builders' yards were open. 11 - Roof off and timber finally arrived! 12 - Crown and stretchers. I looked up planning permission restrictions and you can have an outhouse up to 2.4m at the eaves and 3m at the peak without planning permission. The concrete panels are 2m tall, so I put a crown of two 145mm boards on top, and then the roof assembly with all the various layers added another 100mm. Measured this up at the end and it genuinely comes in at 2.39m and 2.995m 13 and 14 - Ridge and rafters. Yes, this timber is way, way overkill, but I was using instructions for a tile roof when I was originally planning a brick-build and forgot I could skimp down a bit. Even for tiles this seems excessive - the rafters in my HOUSE are spaced twice as wide, and about 40x60mm. These are 45x145. Still - better to be overbuilt than under, I guess 15 and 16 - Roofing underlay and battens. Again, no shop in existence would sell me any battens. I ended up having to get them off eBay, couriered by Hermes >.< The reason for the gaps in the rafters should now be relatively apparent. 17 - Gutter boards and window risers installed: 18 - Shingles! Another three week wait, but worth it. 19 - All shingles on except the ridge. The windows are all staggered to disperse the light as much as possible whilst not weakening the structure too much. 20 - A full shot with the ridge caps on. Starting to look like an actual thing! 21 - Earlier in the year we replaced our greenhouse. It had a load of broken panels and the eaves were really low which made using it awkward. This meant we had a but-load of glass panels (because we hadn't been able to take them to the tip because they were closed). I was originally planning on buying pre-made uPVC windows and doors, but again - all the shops closed. Combine those two things and my idiotic approach of wanting to do every damned thing myself, I re-purposed the glass and some timber into double-glazing units. If you ever think you might like a go at this, I whole heartedly emplore you: don't. It's agony. Also - because I was just cutting sheets with a straight-edge and a carbide wheel cutter, the fewer cuts the better. 40 year old glass is extremely brittle and a lot of cuts failed. So I made as few as possible, resulting in leaving two panes full, four panes with one side trimmed, and two panes had to have both cuts. Per window. So 32 sheets of glass, 24 of which needed cutting to size, and layering on a spacer inside routed channels. The top join is never under stress so it's got nothing but clear sealant over it to make it as close to seamless as possible. They get moisture inside, which is a shame, but they're only really for letting light in rather than looking out of, so whatever. 22 - Windows hoisted up on to the roof. Thanks very much Adam and Mike who detoured about 40 minutes on the way to a ride to help me out. They're only about 25-30kg each, but they're 1250x1250mm each so very awkward. I'd actually had them all finished for about three weeks before I was able to get someone to help me lift them. Very frustrating times. They were originally indended to be openable because oh BOY did it get hot in there in the summer, but I messed up calculations and forgot to account for the ridge tiles which are in the way and I have no way of attaching hinges to the top edge. I've toyed with side-hinges etc, but at the moment I think I'm just going to leave them fixed closed. 23 - Same process for the side window and human-door. Thankfully both of these DO open, however! 24 - Internal studding. I couldn't get them at 600mm centre-to-centre because I could only mount them at the irregularly spaced joints in the concrete panels, which had to be done by un-bolting each and every bolt and putting steel strapping either side before re-fastening. That wasn't a fun couple of days. (Actual days, too. 07:00-21:00 for two days straight, even with Matilda helping :/ ) 25 and 26 - Barn doors! So convenient! Made in the same way as the windows but with plywood sheet in place of glass, obviously. Also routed the mains cable back in before closing off the gable completely. 27 - Speaking of electrics... Originally there was just one flourescent tube bulb and a single plug socket. I replaced the light with four bulbs, but it was super sketch. Time to do it right. Upgrading to 5x double sockets and four better spaced bulbs that are actually connected in a way that won't set on fire. 28 - Finally able to get hold of some more self levelling compound, so filled in that missing patch and smoothed over the rest, then smothered with floor paint to seal it off. (Yes, I was by pure luck able to perfectly match it with the door panels ) 29 - Insulation board in the walls and ceiling. It got unbearably hot in the original garage in the summer, and so cold in winter than my finger got stuck to the cast iron base of the lathe. Probably won't be life-changing, but if that can be moderated at all, I'd like to. 30 - Internal cladding on the ceiling. 31 - Plasterboard. Another thing that took over two weeks to get hold of. Terrible job of it because of the stud spacing, but it's a workshop... It doesn't need to look amazing 32 - Covered over joints, cracks and screws with filler, and then blanket-covered with magnolia. 33 - The pit suffered from terrible damp. Never flooded, but so moist. The dirt floor was probably the main culprit, so I laid a slab in there, and didn't get a picture afterwards but I also tanked it. Seems relatively dry down there so far, and we've had some pretty intense rain since then. Assistance from Alfred much appreciated. 34 - I was originally going to put a steel pit cover on gas struts, but too much faff. I had a bunch of offcuts, so for the price of buying two more boards I could make a super chunky wooden covering which is almost level. The brickwork is very wonky so I need to do some levelling at some point, but it's not a priority at present. It's five separate panels, so I'll put hinges on one side eventually. At the minute it's just got some logs and the Cannibal in it, but eventually I plan to put a massive shelving unit along one wall for the stuff we all have but rarely use (decorating kit etc.). 35 - Neon-blue cyberpunk detailing, perhaps? Perhaps not - let's cover that up. Help from Dad because holy awkward. 36-42 - Definitely not "complete" - I doubt it ever will be - but it's at a point where it just needs finishing touches. Door handles etc. The last big job remaining is making some guttering to lead down into the water butt at the rear. And a final before/after comparison: I know a few people do things like this, so in case anyone's close to pulling the trigger but nervous about money, I'll include what I spent. I did this project because I had money. It was inheritance money that was set aside specifically for this, so I wanted to make it nice. It could EASILY be done a lot, lot cheaper if you just wanted the practical result. All figures have been rounded up/down, just for convenience. Total spendings: £3100 Structural timber: £500 Roofing battens and underlay: £130 Windows and doors: £300 Shingles and cladding: £850 Tools (my drill died, and I needed a router - decided to include these in the cost of the project to make myself feel better about it!): £240 Sealant, steel strapping, and an unholy quantity of screws and nails: £120 Insulation: £280 Plasterboard: £90 Internal cladding: £50 Electrics: £60 Pit floor, tanking and cover: £200 Self-levelling compound and floor paint: £60 Misc. stuff (a different router bit, door locks, hinges etc.) £140 Again - sorry for the ridiculous post! Edited September 12, 2020 by aener 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Looks 100x better now, well done man, you happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Davetrials said: Looks 100x better now, well done man, you happy? Happy might be a bit optimistic, but certainly satisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Now you've insulated it, get a diesel heater in there Looks awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Morris Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Amazing work, really impressive. Have you done anything like this before? Food for thought for you Rowan...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 12/09/2020 at 11:06 PM, Stephen Morris said: Amazing work, really impressive. Have you done anything like this before? Not really, no. Just made a bunch of it up as I went along, made plenty of mistakes in the process, and spent many, many hours on YouTube Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 I just realised I ordered twice as much wood as I needed for the wall framing as they only had 4.8m lengths instead of 2.4m and I forgot to halve my total when I finally worked out the total and made up an order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Amazing stuff Flipp! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 making progress. Lifting the back wall on my own was not much fun... Will chop the trees back more when I can stand on the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Cool! That's going to be a snug fit in that space! What are you doing for external covering/protection? Really wish I'd gotten the oppotunity to start from scratch like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 The current walls will be wrapped with a waterproof breather membrane and then battened out for cladding. At the moment I’m going to treat up / stain some cheap 12mm ply, but might not be a long term option. Budget is tight so just want it covered for now. Other consideration is you aren’t going to see much cladding as most of the front is glass and the sides and rear are virtually all hidden. Cladding is sooo pricey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Update got a rough roof and some waterproofing on before it rained loads. Sooo much left to do but at least it’s kinda protected. Hoping to finish the roof structure and insulation by the end of the weekend. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Been getting to grips with the router table that I bought for a tenner about 6 years ago and making kitchen cabinets for the van 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Finally got round to putting the infill panels into the van cupboard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 I've been toying with a project that needs some bends but not started it yet. Is that 3mm ply? Did you steam it, or just rag it over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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