giantwhore Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Who has experience of running the EBC red pads in a Shimano zee brake? Mine are running sintered at the moment and i've barely ridden them (not enough to bed them in), but if the EBC's are as good as people say, i'll consider investing sooner rather than later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marg26 Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Sorry can't help as the pair of EBC Red I have are waiting in my spares box to fit to my Zees on my Inspired Console. Currently running stock pads that came with the brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marg26 Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Will give them a go in a few days when I next go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 I run the Zee brakes and EBC reds. Have done for the last 4 years, no complaints and run sharp as hell. Definitely recommend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt24. Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I have run EBC reds and Trialtech, found the Trialtech grabbier which was sometimes not a benefit. The ebc reds offered up plenty of power and with a little less grab than the Trialtech worked better for manuals etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marg26 Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Just went out for a half hour with them. Massive difference especially on the front. Didn't feel doing my usual last minute braking at the bottom of the gaps down between the cliffs was a good idea. And usually everybody turns to see what the massive honking noise was, but these were silent. Did initially notice a big improvement on the rear, but maybe I just adjusted to it far easier, or the existing stock front brakes (+1yr old, ~50 rides, ~36hrs) were contaminated or something - they looked good as new too. Edited June 24, 2020 by marg26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantwhore Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Really helpful feedback thanks. Decision was either to try EBC reds or just get a set of MT5's Sounds like the pad change is worth a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantwhore Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 22/06/2020 at 10:43 PM, John Shrewsbury said: I run the Zee brakes and EBC reds. Have done for the last 4 years, no complaints and run sharp as hell. Definitely recommend. Do you run into issues with the lever blades digging into your middle finger when you pull hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marg26 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Yeah I was getting that issue with the blade rubbing against my finger when on the rear wheel, brake felt a bit soft & squidgy not what I expected. Turns out I had been far too conservative adjusting the reach when I initially set them up. Problem solved and fingers didn't have any problems reaching either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantwhore Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, marg26 said: Yeah I was getting that issue with the blade rubbing against my finger when on the rear wheel, brake felt a bit soft & squidgy not what I expected. Turns out I had been far too conservative adjusting the reach when I initially set them up. Problem solved and fingers didn't have any problems reaching either. Yea exactly the same. A really squidgy lever. I could probably pull it right to the bar even though the reach is almost as far as it can go Edited June 25, 2020 by giantwhore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marg26 Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 I was surprised though how much setting the reach right out improved it in my case, but if it's right out already then yours might just need a good bleed I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantwhore Posted June 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 It's strange....there's no real bite point and i feel like i have to pull the lever initially to get the brake to start but the pull a lot to get the lever to then reach what feels like a stopping point in the lever travel. Seems to take an unreasonable amount of pull compared to the SRAM X0's i've had before. Maybe a bleed is a good idea. Might now i'm thinking about just selling them and getting MT5's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) On 6/25/2020 at 9:49 PM, giantwhore said: Do you run into issues with the lever blades digging into your middle finger when you pull hard? I did when I trying to bunnyhop high stuff. But I actually adjusted mine in a little further on the bar so I have more grip length. But Ali C mentioned he puts a bit of sugru mold on the inner side of the levers, possibly worth a try. https://sugru.com/buy/family-safe-skin-friendly-formula-classic-colours-8-pack?gclid=Cj0KCQjwudb3BRC9ARIsAEa-vUuGkoGumCYmrdOdPjPAIpfKouwOIG1ECAHRZ3v_9sIypHonPSLovHYaAsYbEALw_wcB Also if you want the lever blades in further and not adjust them out too far you could bring them back in to a comfortable position. The take the wheels out or the calipers off and pump the pistons in a little ( not too much ) then force them back on in between the rotor and you should get a strong lever bite so you don’t have to have the levers out far. You will still be able to adjust the brake, but pump it then hold and tighten the caliper down. I do it every so often because I wasn’t getting a good enough bleed, specially on the rear. Good little tip to try. Edited June 26, 2020 by John Shrewsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marg26 Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) I was watching Sam Pilgrim and noticed his levers were so far in there was probably only a fingers width overlap between blade and the grip. Might have to experiment with that. Also was on the verge of ordering sugru before realizing I'd adjusted the reach badly. Edited June 26, 2020 by marg26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Song Posted June 28, 2020 Report Share Posted June 28, 2020 So random question regarding the pads, when you swap the pads on an existing rotor, do you need to do anything to the rotor to make it work? Would the rotor still work as well if the news bedded in on a rotor with the material from the old pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted June 28, 2020 Report Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Sam Song said: So random question regarding the pads, when you swap the pads on an existing rotor, do you need to do anything to the rotor to make it work? Would the rotor still work as well if the news bedded in on a rotor with the material from the old pads? Just splash some water on the rotor if you have EBC reds. Then give it some time and they will bedd in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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