Jump to content

Hardcore hardtail frame advice


monkeyseemonkeydo
 Share

Recommended Posts

So I fancy getting a hardtail frame for shits and giggles but want to be able to transfer across all the bits I can from the Whyte so that's 142x12 rear end, 650B, post mounts, threaded BB, suitable for 150mm forks, 30.9mm seatpost (ideally, obviously bigger isn't an issue)... after reasonably modern, but not too extreme, geometry but of course it can't be too new as everything has gone Boost. Thoughts on a postcard...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 hours ago, monkeyseemonkeydo said:

So I fancy getting a hardtail frame for shits and giggles but want to be able to transfer across all the bits I can from the Whyte so that's 142x12 rear end, 650B, post mounts, threaded BB, suitable for 150mm forks, 30.9mm seatpost (ideally, obviously bigger isn't an issue)... after reasonably modern, but not too extreme, geometry but of course it can't be too new as everything has gone Boost. Thoughts on a postcard...

Which rear hub are you using, Dave? Reason I ask is a few companies like Hope offer 142mm to 148mm conversion kits, so it might open up options for you a bit (Y) 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just found that there are actually a load of generic options out there, e.g.: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302967074405?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=302967074405&targetid=1140014333262&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007415&poi=&campaignid=12126112062&mkgroupid=119550279089&rlsatarget=aud-629407027105:pla-1140014333262&abcId=9300482&merchantid=113700346&gclid=CjwKCAjw9MuCBhBUEiwAbDZ-7hn7lVoWBEBelq5q-mEakc6S8QoLZ9LnY9cVOC6HPF-Ctjak5ByRvBoCbEYQAvD_BwE

That's essentially what the Hope one is, but with plain spacers rather than bespoke end caps. Doesn't seem like it'd be too bad? As before, will open up a load of options for you so it may be worth considering.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

58 minutes ago, Mark W said:

Just found that there are actually a load of generic options out there, e.g.: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302967074405?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=302967074405&targetid=1140014333262&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007415&poi=&campaignid=12126112062&mkgroupid=119550279089&rlsatarget=aud-629407027105:pla-1140014333262&abcId=9300482&merchantid=113700346&gclid=CjwKCAjw9MuCBhBUEiwAbDZ-7hn7lVoWBEBelq5q-mEakc6S8QoLZ9LnY9cVOC6HPF-Ctjak5ByRvBoCbEYQAvD_BwE

That's essentially what the Hope one is, but with plain spacers rather than bespoke end caps. Doesn't seem like it'd be too bad? As before, will open up a load of options for you so it may be worth considering.

I had a look at those a little while back and I confused myself as to what they actually should be... there are two options- one is to have two axle spacers, 3mm each and then a 3mm disc spacer which obviously doesn't require the wheel re-dishing but equally I'm not sure the derailleur would end up in the correct place. The second option is one 6mm spacer to run on the non-drive side and then a 6mm disc spacer but this of course means the wheel would need to be re-dished. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Good question... from memory, the Hope one pushes things more over to the drive side. I don't believe it's the full 6mm just being applied to one side though. The rotor spacers they include appear to be from the same steel as their rotors so I assume they're more in the region of 4mm non-drive, 2mm drive? As before, they use bespoke end caps for them so they're a bit harder to really work out what the difference is. 

I guess either way you should have enough adjustment from the high/low stops on your mech to get yourself in the right ballpark?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

One thing I don't like about the NS/Dartmoor is that the brand use fully integrated headset bearings (on this case IS42/52) in alloy frames.

I had a Devinci Troy with integrated headset and to me, this is a really bad design (I think this was not an issue with the build quality of Devinci). The surface in contact is really small andhaving steel against alloy is not good.

In addition, the aluminium used for headset cups is much harder than the one used for frame. And also you might have some galvanic corrosion.

After many months of riding, I had to machine the headset again because the bearings alter the frame.

Maybe I used to ride with a slightly loose headset, but this would not happen with a semi integrated design.

But I think the NS or Dartmoor are a good choice for the price. I had some NS stuff (and from octane01, the cheapest brand of NS) and a Dartmoor frame.

The build quality seem not to be as good as top brand, but it will do the job.

 

NS has also the Surge, it is their hardcore freeride hardtail in steel. Heavy but will last forever! Rear axle is 135*10 unfortunatly...

115-2303.jpg

Edited by La Bourde
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...