monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 So I fancy getting a hardtail frame for shits and giggles but want to be able to transfer across all the bits I can from the Whyte so that's 142x12 rear end, 650B, post mounts, threaded BB, suitable for 150mm forks, 30.9mm seatpost (ideally, obviously bigger isn't an issue)... after reasonably modern, but not too extreme, geometry but of course it can't be too new as everything has gone Boost. Thoughts on a postcard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) You've basically described my hardtail frame. It's a 2019 NS Eccentric Alu 27.5" frame. I find the cockpit a tad cramped, but have lots of fun riding it. Could be one to look out for. Edited March 15, 2021 by Mikee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 I was looking at those when they were on CRC. Not sure why I didn't pull the trigger! Will keep an eye out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Have a look at Dartmoor, I have a Hornet which is non-boost. Running 160mm fork. Very reasonable price too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 15 hours ago, monkeyseemonkeydo said: So I fancy getting a hardtail frame for shits and giggles but want to be able to transfer across all the bits I can from the Whyte so that's 142x12 rear end, 650B, post mounts, threaded BB, suitable for 150mm forks, 30.9mm seatpost (ideally, obviously bigger isn't an issue)... after reasonably modern, but not too extreme, geometry but of course it can't be too new as everything has gone Boost. Thoughts on a postcard... Which rear hub are you using, Dave? Reason I ask is a few companies like Hope offer 142mm to 148mm conversion kits, so it might open up options for you a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 It's a Chris King unfortunately and I don't think they do any kind of conversions kits. I'm sure I could make it work with spacers but I don't think I can be bothered with the faff if I were to get a flat out on the trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just found that there are actually a load of generic options out there, e.g.: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302967074405?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=302967074405&targetid=1140014333262&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007415&poi=&campaignid=12126112062&mkgroupid=119550279089&rlsatarget=aud-629407027105:pla-1140014333262&abcId=9300482&merchantid=113700346&gclid=CjwKCAjw9MuCBhBUEiwAbDZ-7hn7lVoWBEBelq5q-mEakc6S8QoLZ9LnY9cVOC6HPF-Ctjak5ByRvBoCbEYQAvD_BwE That's essentially what the Hope one is, but with plain spacers rather than bespoke end caps. Doesn't seem like it'd be too bad? As before, will open up a load of options for you so it may be worth considering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Mark W said: Just found that there are actually a load of generic options out there, e.g.: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302967074405?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=302967074405&targetid=1140014333262&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007415&poi=&campaignid=12126112062&mkgroupid=119550279089&rlsatarget=aud-629407027105:pla-1140014333262&abcId=9300482&merchantid=113700346&gclid=CjwKCAjw9MuCBhBUEiwAbDZ-7hn7lVoWBEBelq5q-mEakc6S8QoLZ9LnY9cVOC6HPF-Ctjak5ByRvBoCbEYQAvD_BwE That's essentially what the Hope one is, but with plain spacers rather than bespoke end caps. Doesn't seem like it'd be too bad? As before, will open up a load of options for you so it may be worth considering. I had a look at those a little while back and I confused myself as to what they actually should be... there are two options- one is to have two axle spacers, 3mm each and then a 3mm disc spacer which obviously doesn't require the wheel re-dishing but equally I'm not sure the derailleur would end up in the correct place. The second option is one 6mm spacer to run on the non-drive side and then a 6mm disc spacer but this of course means the wheel would need to be re-dished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Good question... from memory, the Hope one pushes things more over to the drive side. I don't believe it's the full 6mm just being applied to one side though. The rotor spacers they include appear to be from the same steel as their rotors so I assume they're more in the region of 4mm non-drive, 2mm drive? As before, they use bespoke end caps for them so they're a bit harder to really work out what the difference is. I guess either way you should have enough adjustment from the high/low stops on your mech to get yourself in the right ballpark? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bourde Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) One thing I don't like about the NS/Dartmoor is that the brand use fully integrated headset bearings (on this case IS42/52) in alloy frames. I had a Devinci Troy with integrated headset and to me, this is a really bad design (I think this was not an issue with the build quality of Devinci). The surface in contact is really small andhaving steel against alloy is not good. In addition, the aluminium used for headset cups is much harder than the one used for frame. And also you might have some galvanic corrosion. After many months of riding, I had to machine the headset again because the bearings alter the frame. Maybe I used to ride with a slightly loose headset, but this would not happen with a semi integrated design. But I think the NS or Dartmoor are a good choice for the price. I had some NS stuff (and from octane01, the cheapest brand of NS) and a Dartmoor frame. The build quality seem not to be as good as top brand, but it will do the job. NS has also the Surge, it is their hardcore freeride hardtail in steel. Heavy but will last forever! Rear axle is 135*10 unfortunatly... Edited March 19, 2021 by La Bourde 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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