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Which levers for Shigura?

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I'm in the early planning stages of switching my Magura levers to Shimano levers, I've not had much experience with Shimano levers so I don't really have any idea which ones would work best with MT7 calipers. From my limited knowledge I've narrowed it down to:

Shimano Zee (Servo Wave) (Not sure what year/model number)

Shimano XT (Servo Wave) (Not sure what year/model number)

The Only things I'm really bothered about apart from the increased durability over the Magura levers is ease of bleeding, decent modulation (hence the interest in Servo Wave) and more importantly some adjustment because I need the bite point where I like it. 

 

Also am I correct in assuming the following is needed for a Shigura setup:

Hoses = Magura

Barbs = Shimano (specific to the lever)

Olives = Magura

Oil = Shimano Mineral or Royal Blood

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This may be of some help

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12 minutes ago, Dazza1414 said:

This may be of some help

I've actually watched that already, thank you. It's a good video for showing the process and the bleed. Just need to know which levers would be best for me. 

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@Ali C would probably be the best  person to talk to. 

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I used an XT lever in my experiment. It worked perfectly and they're easy to bleed, but I eventually went back to MT5 levers.

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4 minutes ago, Swoofty said:

I used an XT lever in my experiment. It worked perfectly and they're easy to bleed, but I eventually went back to MT5 levers.

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What made you switch back?

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I'm using the Saint-m820 levers with an MT4 caliper on the front and an MT5 caliper on the rear. Best brakes I've had so far. (and I came from full Saint M810s)
A friend of mine has XT levers with MT5 calipers. They feel the same as mine.
The best thing in addition to the amazing modulation is that there's less lever travel before the pads contact, compared to the Shimano calipers I had, so you can run them closer to the bars and still not hit your fingers.

I think the Saint lever blades are a little thicker than SLX. (Ali C snapped an SLX in a video) The Zee blades look just as thick in the images though, so that sounds like a good combination of value and durability.

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19 hours ago, Rip said:

...decent modulation (hence the interest in Servo Wave)...

The only thing I'd say with that is that it'll take some getting used to. Because it's more of a progressive increase in power as you move the lever through the stroke rather than linear, you do need to re-learn how the brake adds power in a way. It's obviously fairly subtle in the sense that you don't necessarily consciously think about exactly how much force you're applying, but something to consider if that is something you're concerned about. It's part of the reason that people used to say that Shimano's brakes were 'too powerful' for mountain biking as they thought they went from a bit of power to allofthepower really quickly. 

I'd also say I'm not sure that the Shimano levers are easier to bleed as such. Although most aspects of the Magura levers are turd, the ability to do a really quick top-up bleed with just a simple syringe and some mineral oil is handy.

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12 hours ago, Max F said:

I think the Saint lever blades are a little thicker than SLX. (Ali C snapped an SLX in a video)

Think that's the one he snapped in Cardiff? If so, he just bent it doing a hook and it snapped. It wasn't even through a crash or anything. In fairness, it is what they're designed to do there, but it would put me off using that particular lever I think.

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39 minutes ago, Mark W said:

The only thing I'd say with that is that it'll take some getting used to. Because it's more of a progressive increase in power as you move the lever through the stroke rather than linear, you do need to re-learn how the brake adds power in a way. It's obviously fairly subtle in the sense that you don't necessarily consciously think about exactly how much force you're applying, but something to consider if that is something you're concerned about. It's part of the reason that people used to say that Shimano's brakes were 'too powerful' for mountain biking as they thought they went from a bit of power to allofthepower really quickly. 

 

That's going to be one of those things that you just have to try to see how you get on I guess. 

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Hi Everyone !

I am currently considering the Shigura option ....
Mt5 lever is a lot flimsy. The blade lever pin i don't know why tends to goes out ... and i don't really trust it. But braking power is nice.

I am considering using a xt lever. But after reading here that they are fragile, i am wondering...

As i can't find a really clear answer, have some people this day, more ideas about which lever can't be good and trusted with these magura MT calipers.

Maybe a stupid question, but anyone has use an other thing than shimano's levers?

Thanks !

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