Swoofty Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 The car forums love to savage the "cheap chinese ebay parts," but every once in a while there's a diamond in the rough. I'll start this thread off with my latest experiment; the Koozer rear hub. I've owned numerous Hope single speed hubs over the years and I currently have 3 I9 Hydra single speed hubs and a Profile Elite single speed hub so I do like the good stuff. BUT, sometimes $230 -$450 seems a little steep for a hub that's not going to live on an 'A' bike. So enter the $57 Koozer! It's got 72 clicks and it's not too porky. Will it hold up? Let's find out. The US distributor only had pink in stock and they only come 32h and quick release or 142 x12. The spokes for it are in the post, but I'll start abusing it as soon as it's built up. I want to hear about other cheap chinese finds out there; good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US_BenR Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 I bought a Chinese carbon fork from ebay. I then purchased a Niner fork to replace it. The quality left a lot to be desired. Free if you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted April 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 I'll admit I've looked at carbon forks on ebay, but I guess that's where I draw the line. The best was when I had an actual trials carbon fork for for sale on ebay and buyers kept asking why it was so expensive compared to cheap chinese carbon forks. That's just testing I'm not willing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwtrials Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 On 4/16/2022 at 11:54 AM, Swoofty said: I'll admit I've looked at carbon forks on ebay, but I guess that's where I draw the line. The best was when I had an actual trials carbon fork for for sale on ebay and buyers kept asking why it was so expensive compared to cheap chinese carbon forks. That's just testing I'm not willing to do. Yeah, there's a disc fork on AliExpress that is marketed as for trials. For $70 usd. But like you said, not something I'm willing to get hurt for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 I think I’d almost rather a fork than a hub failure…. id be willing to run budget Chinese stuff on a mountain bike , but I don’t think I could bring myself to on a trials bike. I can’t think of anything that’s non-critical in trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 I've got a Koozer hub on the back of my slopestyle bike (the Evo one with the steel axle) and it seems pretty good but does occasionally skip slightly under light load (never yet under heavy load). I probably wouldn't trust it on a trials bike but then that's me and it obviously depends on your type of riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 i heard someone used to abuse koozer rear hub and the bearings failed. But replacing bearings was not hard at all. By the way just stumbled in chinese-online shop. Have a look at these: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141001.2.191e6eff5o3f74&id=622392145962&scm=1007.12144.95220.42296_0_0&pvid=e5703ecc-b355-4bd8-938f-a6a43756cd3a&utparam={"x_hestia_source"%3A"42296"%2C"x_object_type"%3A"item"%2C"x_hestia_subsource"%3A"default"%2C"x_mt"%3A0%2C"x_src"%3A"42296"%2C"x_pos"%3A2%2C"wh_pid"%3A-1%2C"x_pvid"%3A"e5703ecc-b355-4bd8-938f-a6a43756cd3a"%2C"scm"%3A"1007.12144.95220.42296_0_0"%2C"x_object_id"%3A622392145962} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, MaderaMark said: i heard someone used to abuse koozer rear hub and the bearings failed. But replacing bearings was not hard at all. By the way just stumbled in chinese-online shop. Have a look at these: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141001.2.191e6eff5o3f74&id=622392145962&scm=1007.12144.95220.42296_0_0&pvid=e5703ecc-b355-4bd8-938f-a6a43756cd3a&utparam={"x_hestia_source"%3A"42296"%2C"x_object_type"%3A"item"%2C"x_hestia_subsource"%3A"default"%2C"x_mt"%3A0%2C"x_src"%3A"42296"%2C"x_pos"%3A2%2C"wh_pid"%3A-1%2C"x_pvid"%3A"e5703ecc-b355-4bd8-938f-a6a43756cd3a"%2C"scm"%3A"1007.12144.95220.42296_0_0"%2C"x_object_id"%3A622392145962} Brand: GOODTIMES Single speed without sprocket Front hub 100X15 (with 110X20 adapter), front hub weight: 213g Rear hub 135SS screw axle, rear hub weight: 409g Suitable for single-speed vehicles such as street cars, dirt slopes, street climbing, etc. CNC machining of anodized Al6060-T6 shell and Al7075 base (about 58% higher hardness than Al6061-T6) ·2 front hubs 5 rear hubs sealed deep groove ball bearings 57T ring gear, 6 pawls, 3 pawls, grouped bite to ensure durability, and at the same time achieve 114 sounds and 3.15° bite angle · 32 holes with six-pin discs with elbow spokes Wire Length Calculation Front hub pcd left 58.10 pcd right 58.10 offset left 22.75 offset right32.75 Rear hub pcd left 58.25 pcd right 58.25 offset left 31.33 offser right 31.33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted April 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 How about cheap pedals? Bucklos are the undisputed kings of cheap suspension forks so I'll try there pedals too. Nylon body, steel axle and removable pins. $25 and the weights not bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwtrials Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Swoofty said: How about cheap pedals? Bucklos are the undisputed kings of cheap suspension forks so I'll try there pedals too. Nylon body, steel axle and removable pins. $25 and the weights not bad. How do they feel? I have a pair of pedals I bought on Amazon I used for awhile, similar construction to the new echo pedals, fairly light. But the axle area was a bit higher than the rest of the platform area so you didn't get all your weight on the pins and they my foot would shift too easily. I'll find em tomorrow. Edited April 23, 2022 by cwtrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted April 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 I definitely wouldn't trade in my HT ME03 pedals for these, but they feel surprisingly good. They could do with a bit more concave, but they are at least concave. For now the pins are new and sharp so they're very grippy. The platform is also slightly larger than my HTs. I learned a while back that you can make your shoes last longer by changing pedals with a different pin configuration so it eats away a new part of your sole. For that, these compliment my HTs very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 10:09 AM, Swoofty said: How about cheap pedals? Bucklos are the undisputed kings of cheap suspension forks so I'll try there pedals too. Nylon body, steel axle and removable pins. $25 and the weights not bad. Seems not much different on the ones i used before, nothing much to complain but the pins. Destroys my sole and made me get another 5.10 shoes in less than a year. Anyway, grips and feel were awesome. But i changed to some chinese alloy (krsec) pedals with more sole-friendly pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted April 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 Those do look exactly the same. They also run $25 on ebay. The alu KRSEC looks interesting too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Swoofty said: Those do look exactly the same. They also run $25 on ebay. The alu KRSEC looks interesting too. been using the KRSEC since June last year, I just did a double check on the bearings and added more grease since it looks dry to me. Until now, still intact and scratches everywhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted May 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 I had 2 good rides on the new cheap build this weekend and the Koozer didn't miss a beat. Saturday's ride, the brakes where still bedding in, but Sunday was full throttle. The Bucklos pedals are really growing on me and the Magura MT brakes are remarkably good. $57 hub, $35 brake and $25 pedals, so far so good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 how are these so cheap? looking to lighten up an old 26” xc frame for a race, under $200 for carbon wheelset including hubs ?!? what? are they also caled “buckleos”? Buckle-oos? ahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Driving Chinese slaves without any regard for the environment is what does that. Great name too. Plus, it's not carbon, just some partially carbon hub shell or maybe even just carbon coloured sticker on the hub. I'd say boycot this and all junk from Alibabba, makes for a somehwat clearer conscience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Daan said: Driving Chinese slaves without any regard for the environment is what does that. Great name too. Plus, it's not carbon, just some partially carbon hub shell or maybe even just carbon coloured sticker on the hub. I'd say boycot this and all junk from Alibabba, makes for a somehwat clearer conscience. The rims aren’t carbon? I cannot imagine riding that rear hub.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoofty Posted May 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just in case the Koozer is not up to the task, I also purchased a TMS single speed hub. I've never used one, but I guess they come on many TMS bikes. I can get them for $160 so they're cheaper than a Hope, but only come in black. It's gonna go on the back of my Marino. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaderaMark Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Swoofty said: Just in case the Koozer is not up to the task, I also purchased a TMS single speed hub. I've never used one, but I guess they come on many TMS bikes. I can get them for $160 so they're cheaper than a Hope, but only come in black. It's gonna go on the back of my Marino. Looks identical or just the look..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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