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Hello there,i was offered an Echo  bike in good condition but i am not familiar with geometry etc. on this one.As a man who never ride this kind of bike ( i really want to try to learn some moves on stock one) i just wondering would it be good choice for beginner?The rear brake does not have brake booster(has Magura HS33) which is good or bad thing?Also previous owner run long stem but i am not very tall (165cm.),so what stem do i need,if i have to change it(i think i have to)?

P.S.The attached pictures shows the bike(the owner did send them to me).

Any advice and help would be appreciated.

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Hi,

 

I guess it is an Echo pure MKII.

I found following geometry data:

- Wheelbase: 1085mm
- Chainstays: 380mm
- BB Height: +55mm
- Head Angle: 72°
- Reach: 655mm
- Frame Spacing: 135mm

Ali C. recommends to use a brake booster with the frame (it seems to be the mk1, that hat strain gauge tubes afaik)

 

The stem looks really long...

I think it is a good bike to start riding stock.

Quite modern geometry.

 

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Thank you,La Bourde

I also thought that might be a Pure one but did not know what MK is.The stem definitely would be changed but i do not know what size might be and that is problem.I hope so someone here would make a suggestion about.The rear brake is HS33 on smooth rim and i have never ride Magura before so i do not know what to expect.Some people says that does not hold like vee's but have more bites.Would see.I am not sure about this Kenda tyre on the back is good or not.Never ride Kenda.

If you have some thoughts to share about parts,please do it.Thank you for your time.

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I personally don't like the Kenda K Rad at all. I would rather ride a Maxxis Holy Roller. I had a few Kenda tyres (in XC, 4X, Dirt) and even on a street/trial, I did not like them. Too narrow, not so grippy. The small block eight was OK though.

Regarding the stem, I will go for a shorter one for sure. The stem on this bike looks like a 20" stem, around 160mm long or even more. I guess you can first try a 130mm long stem with some rise or even less if you want to tilt your bar forward (but there are not so many options around 100mm/110mm)

According to me, Magura can hold very well if the whole system is not to stiff. Else, a liminal release of the lever affects the hold.
If the rims are smooth but you have dedicated brakepads, you should be good, as long as the rims stay dry.

 


 

 

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Yeah,La Bourde,these Kenda's are so-so,i am going to change them.Bike is in good condition but the stem is quite long 165/25.I have ordered 145/25 which is closer to original one (which is 150/30) to see how it is.I also have one 120/20 so have to try which one is better for me (i am 165cm. tall).Frame is long , wheelbase is 1080 so i guess bunnyhoping would be very hard.I am not liking handlebar so i think to chage it but i do not know what back and sweep angles are.Any suggestion for brand and model?The frame has noticeable flex around rear brake mounts so i have ordered Echo two bolts booster.The brakes are Echo TR,i never have such ones so i do not know what to expect.

La Bourde,any suggestion about the handlebar?

Thank you.

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You can forget to bunny up that bike. It is a comp bike and even if its possinle a pedal hop is much less effort. Even with a 120x20 and a riser bar, that won't be easy...But I recommend a bar with riser in combination with the shorter stem, so that you can adjust how far and high your hands are.

 

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Try with 120mm first. 

Having a bar far ahead from the front axle helps a lot for some comp trial specific moves, but I don't know if your riding is based on them or not.

As I started comp trials back a few years ago, I could only execute a few front moves. A longer stem and a bar tilt forward was more of disadvantage back then.

But now I can do more front move and I see more the benefit of a bar far ahead.

 

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