Ben Geary Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 (edited) Just wondering if i should go faster in to a tap, My mates go in full blast and they say i should go faster and i'll get higher.Should i go faster?Me tap Edited January 7, 2006 by Gears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Once you've got the confidence, hit it faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 hit low as possible and as fast as you are controlled to go.Clarky.p.s your tap was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 That was purfik, I tend to go slow aswell.. Still works for me..Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 (edited) i wouldnt think its all about the speed its all about the technique like where abouts to hit the wall and when to lift. also that tap was sick Edited January 7, 2006 by Snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Yer I go slow aswell for taps really because I don't want to hurt myself if it goes wrong But I do sometimes go at it with speed and it makes it easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I'd say the speeds just about right, just hit it harder, and you will go higher. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 speed was ok, but your technique needs work.They way you did it then is kinda the old skool way of doing it, with just a left right pedal motion.You also stopped pedaling a long way from the wall and kinda manualed into it.Also you hit it pretty high and didnt crouch or jump at all (your body just stayed in the same place through the move, thats why you ended up with your ass on yur tyre when you landed)Try and do it this way......get a full pedal revoloution in there (left, right, left!), leave it a bit later before you pedal at it, so your just finnished pedaling (or still pedaling a little) when your front wheel hits.Aim the front wheel lower and really plow into it, this will get you more hight with less effort. (dont forget to crouch as you get near the wall and jump up just as you hit it)A good tip I recken is to not put your back brake on straight away, let the rear wheen roll up the wall a little bit, it really helps you just fly up them, trust me.give it a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeZee Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I think you'd be better going a little faster. You kinda just rolled up to it, i'm assuming because you couldn't get the timing on the stroke?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan-Walker Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 how high was the tap anyway ?dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 (edited) it was 40" measured with a tape measure Edited January 7, 2006 by Snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefletch Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 the 1st one was alrite, 2nd 1 was a bit slow lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 u would be surprised at how high you can go with low speed,like 1meter run up.. as long as you hit low,,hitting the front wheel lower means that you a more likly to go over the bars,this is good because it hardly ever causes you to go over the bars it just means you weight is more central on the bike when your up the wall. so you get up rather than landing on it then falling backward,that usually means your not hitting low enough..but having said that,, if i wanna go big, i go pretty fast and start pedaling with my front foot. 1 revolution and up u go kinda thing..iolo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I can't tap myself but it looks fine, maybe a bit faster.But i'm only comparing to what i've seen froom other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 u would be surprised at how high you can go with low speed,like 1meter run up.. as long as you hit low,,hitting the front wheel lower means that you a more likly to go over the bars,this is good because it hardly ever causes you to go over the bars it just means you weight is more central on the bike when your up the wall. so you get up rather than landing on it then falling backward,that usually means your not hitting low enough..but having said that,, if i wanna go big, i go pretty fast and start pedaling with my front foot. 1 revolution and up u go kinda thing..iolo.hehe I only tried that about 3 times and it does get you up but i find it scary lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 the 1st one was alrite, 2nd 1 was a bit slow lolhahahatry and crouch down more before you hit it so you can hit it with more force and so you can use the extra spring to pull yourself up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Geary Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Cheers people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 this is a good topic, from what ali c is saying im doing the opposite. when my axel comes ill give it ago.my technique is the same as yours i think, i aint hopping at all just letting the impact of the tap do it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseytrial Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 speed was ok, but your technique needs work.They way you did it then is kinda the old skool way of doing it, with just a left right pedal motion.You also stopped pedaling a long way from the wall and kinda manualed into it.Also you hit it pretty high and didnt crouch or jump at all (your body just stayed in the same place through the move, thats why you ended up with your ass on yur tyre when you landed)Try and do it this way......get a full pedal revoloution in there (left, right, left!), leave it a bit later before you pedal at it, so your just finnished pedaling (or still pedaling a little) when your front wheel hits.Aim the front wheel lower and really plow into it, this will get you more hight with less effort. (dont forget to crouch as you get near the wall and jump up just as you hit it)A good tip I recken is to not put your back brake on straight away, let the rear wheen roll up the wall a little bit, it really helps you just fly up them, trust me.give it a try Good advice Ali . Every think you say is spot on. Except I wouldn't advise him to aim the front wheel lower. All that would do is snap his forks and stop him dead. Every time we tap, the bike is at the same angle regardless of what hight the wall is. Its the angle that gives best bounce to forward ratio. Imagine wedging your bike between the floor and the wall ( front wheel against wall, rear wheel on floor). If the front wheel is to high up the wall then the bike will just tilt back until the rear wheel touches the wall too. If the front wheel is too low then the bike will just crash rather that go up. Thats why steep head angles are no good for taps, cos the frame wont wedge the force into the back wheel as well. So keep the angle of the bike the same, but do as Ali says with the pedals (good foot, bad foot, good foot). Then when you get better, try lifting the front wheel with you bad foot. This gives you more momentum and raises your body higher much earlier in the move. When you have sussed out when to start pedaling so that your good foot just about gets forward as your front wheel touches the wall, then you want to start learning to start off with your bad foot for the bigger taps. (Bad, good, bad then good as your front wheel touches) the 1st one was alrite, 2nd 1 was a bit slow lolHAHHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHHHaaARR Also to answer your question 'should I go faster?'I think you should just consentrate ont he pedal turns and jumping your body high.adam,P.s it would be cool to see a vid of your progression in a few months or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 It looks like your doing it fine from the clip. Your speed is just about right, when I tap I tend to use as little run up as possible, for some reason I feel more confident this way and it helps encourage better technique, incase your ever in a position where you need to tap without much run up. Only on taps that are 45"+ I use more run up for, and even then I dont go any faster than you were in that clip as I dont want to fly over the bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 has anybody got any advice on what to do when taping on a mod bike? i can do about 41" which is still less than I did after an hour of riding a stock bike. it seems that mod bikes are just useless for this technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-0 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 (edited) Basically mate yes, except if your name is devil_______________________________________________________________the tap looked definetly weird and wrong to me....You need to start a slow jogging paceThen, load your pedal (good foot!!!!) and then power down half a pedal strokestart the wheelie with the next half a pedal stoketap the wall, hop into the bars with your hips, kick hard with your good foot NO FRONT BRAKEentend vertically and then absorb and flex on the landingget right over the back tyrethen hop awaynow go practiceSteve Edited January 8, 2006 by STEVE-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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