Skineddy Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) I was reminiscing about when I first started riding trials and suddenly remembered Starbike hydraulic V brakes. Made by a small German company, they were an attempt to replace standard V brakes (not so much for trials use, just all round brakes). Was a good idea but they weren't too good in practise.I actually have a pair somewhere in silver which I managed to win off the starbike website. You had to play an online game where you fitted a pair of the brakes to a bike as quick as possible. The fastest time on the leader board every month recieved a free pair sent all the way from Germany.Pretty random but I just wondered if anyone else remembered them? (Not that it matters as they were a bit rubbish in my opinion, just interested)Ed Edited January 22, 2006 by Skineddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Got any piccys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I remember them from trialsin.comYou've got some proper old school brakage there, I would like to see some pics too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skineddy Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Don't have any pics of mine (at home in my cupboard with all my old/dead bike bits).Some black ones on ebay:starbike(Don't do it!)Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skineddy Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Oh yeah, one plus point to them was that were designed for use with both V brake, and magura pads. They therefore came with an adaptor to run maggie pads on v brakes which was useful.Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Don't have any pics of mine (at home in my cupboard with all my old/dead bike bits).Some black ones on ebay:starbike(Don't do it!)Ed Now if I could only speak german Look ok, bet they're wank though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skineddy Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yeah, they sucked a bit for trials use. I ended up snapping one of the linkages on the rear caliper. Nice long lever though. Can't say i'd reccomend them, don't have much hold and weigh a fair bit too.Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yeah i remeber them, they also came in a lovely shade of orange to i think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Auto Reply The topic starter has been validated. Moving topic from New Members Chat to Trials Chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yeah i remeber them, they also came in a lovely shade of orange to i think..Yeah I never heard of anyone using them for trials, seemed like a pretty good idea at the time, but no-one tried them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yeah everyone remembers them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Could anyone clarify how they work? I sorta get the idea - does the oil just push the opposing ends of the "noodle" sorta crossover bit, pushing the arms towards the centre or something?Seems like a good idea, I suppose. Sorta like a Magura with theoretically more leverage? Meh, kudos to them for trying it I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) there was an industrial looking brake in the bike shop near me, i figured that was a starbikes, but it seams i was wrong. cant actually find pics of this brake anywhere though.but hey, look at this for an idea, rim disk brake http://www.motorbikestoday.com/reviews/Art...s_lightning.htm Edited January 22, 2006 by mat hudson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skineddy Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) Could anyone clarify how they work? I sorta get the idea - does the oil just push the opposing ends of the "noodle" sorta crossover bit, pushing the arms towards the centre or something?Seems like a good idea, I suppose. Sorta like a Magura with theoretically more leverage? Meh, kudos to them for trying it I guess.Yeah, the piston is in the cross-over part which pushes the end of the cross-over pieces away from each other. This has the result of pulling the arms together. The main problem was that the join between piston & cross-over bits wasn't strong enough (in mine anyway). Mine snapped at this part under normal braking.Ed Edited January 22, 2006 by Skineddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Thomson Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I rmemeber a nice old orange pair on an ameican site...observedtrials.net as i recall...that was AAAAAGGGGEEEESSS ago....I've always wanted at least one...They look great, however probably perform shitely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 are they still available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavtrials Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 i got a set out in the garage.My mate carl pinkham got a set and a week later i decided to get a set,used them for a few months for trials.If you look up a very old mbuk january 2001 and turn to the very first search for a trials star and on page 61 theres a pic of car pinkham gapping off a rock and if you have a look at what back brake he was using it was a hydrulic starbike brake!Only problem with them was that you had to bleed them lots as they lost a tiny bit of fluid where the little piston cums out to close the brake!Gav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 They look like a beastly brake but I don't think an only 20 brakes per session thing would really work out.According to the e-bay seller they need to 'purged' and they come with top quality. (I don't think his translator works) Did you just happen to come across them whilst looking on Belgiums e-bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 i have 1 in the shed, i got it off ebay with intention of using it.....but never got round to it!they are quite a simple design, no idea on the power, i may try it on the base just to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Woooo skineddy where have u been?been gone like 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 there was an industrial looking brake in the bike shop near me, i figured that was a starbikes, but it seams i was wrong. cant actually find pics of this brake anywhere though.but hey, look at this for an idea, rim disk brake http://www.motorbikestoday.com/reviews/Art...s_lightning.htm Yep, same deal as the Ruthless trials bike which had that radially-mounted disc on the rear, and I *Think* the Benelli Tornado and/or MV Agusta F4 bikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skineddy Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Woooo skineddy where have u been?been gone like 3 years Alright mate. Was forced to quit back then because of a back injury which was pretty gutting, but i'm back now! Just hope my back holds out!Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 who knows, maybe in 20-30 years our kids will be reffering to what we use now as "haha look my daddy used some old crap hydraulic magura brakes and a Ti6 Hope brake, gosh I think it's still somewhere in my attic, hydraulics, lol" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexymike Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 i wonder what the next advance will behmmmmajic............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonPace Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 i wonder what the next advance will behmmmmajic...............[/quotprobs nowt really, stiffer frames, better pads and smaller pistons...thats all I can think of!!!apart from the idea of far better rear disc brakes that are likely to appear in the future I expect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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