TomN Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Ooo Can't wait for this hub to come out!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Not long now TomN 1 week and 6 days, do a countdown like.Waynio.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Blast from the past? Anyways, someone on OTN was asking if they hub was gonna be ready soon, so I thought I'd bump this and see if there's any more info... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 il find out when im back from barce.but they seemed to think they would have been released last week.Waynio.....................i got mine through, so they should be "close" if not already out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Anyways, someone on OTN was asking if they hub was gonna be ready soon, so I thought I'd bump this and see if there's any more info...You need to get rid of that banner blocker you have Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Nah, I can see banners here, and I just noticed your's, but it's still just "pre orders", and I thought some shops like CRC/Wiggle/whoever it was were doing "pre orders" ages ago, by having the Pro2T on their sites, but when you clicked to buy it it just pre-ordered it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 just to let people know.................the Hope Pro2 trials hub is out and we have had the hubs in stock now (just got back from barce yest. and got into work this morning) we have had them since back end of last week so literally as i said earlier in this thread.Waynio...............................so if anyone needs any more info they can e-mail or pm me if they wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 bout fecking time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concussion Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 bout fecking time Your not kidding Anyone know were to find the complete specs on this hub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspired Dave Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 48 engagements4 FAT pawls (2 sets of 2)individual leaf springs that are easily twice the strength of XC springs24 tooth deep ratchet6 speed specific freehub body3 sealed cartridge bearings under the freehub, one behind the ratchet ring, a further one on the non-drive side of the hub shelldishless flange spacingdisc mount as standard'fun' bolt style axle design with serrated steel-ringed washersvastly oversized axle (compared to xc)32 or 36h6 different colours403g inc boltsIf I can think of anything else I'll let you know .Cant wait to get mine tomorrow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Dave Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) these sound like they are going to be really good. cant wait for some reviews on the forums soon.then the mbuk review in about 3 month. lmao Edited February 16, 2006 by Trials Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Mine should (fingers crossed) be here tomorrow from Leeson. Will let people know how its going. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Will report later........Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Good stuff Rich.Is that a 185mm rotor? Looks monster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Shaw Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 What cassette are you running Rich?My Pro2T is still going good by the way, had it nearly a month now. Stan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Fox Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hi people,i have been using the same hope mono for well over a year now, i went out tonight and blew the thing up pawls and springs flying everywhere............but...........my mono has been great and the fact that i am a lazy bum and had never seviced it ........................... anyway back to the topic of the pro 2, think it looks the bees knees, and love the fact that is trials specific from what ive heard from some of you guys who are had been testing it, it sounds awsome!think its about time to hang up whats left of my trusty old mono getting one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Is that a 185mm rotor? Looks monster!We had some problems with the last frame getting the wheel in and out because the rotor was so flush with the caliper, so Clive got Hope to take a 185mm C2 rotor and machine it down to 180mm, which Clive then sawtoothed, so the wheel can be much more easily removed.What cassette are you running Rich? Erm....... Shimano 105 7sp HG70 (11-19) I think its that one......... Awesome cassette whatever it is, as unlike most other cassettes which are pinned together and can only be taken apart with a hacksaw and a file, this one is held together with three tiny hexagonal bolts which can be loosened and then removed with something like a 2mm socket head. Makes getting the ratios in the right order soooooooo much easier. Plus it looks the shit.....Right, the hub. Got it this morning (**notices its now saturday** friday morning) and spent most of the day pissing around putting the whole bike together as I've had new rims, had to sort out gears, new Avid caliper for the rear, and loads of other stuff to put together. I also sprayed the sidewalls of the Ronnie and Reggie black as they just looked nasty against the rest of the bike, BUT ANYWAY, the point is I didn't actually get out until well past 8 in the evening, so don't expect the best review ever.I tried to have a go at everything tonight (last night, whatever....) : taps, gaps, sidehops, static stuff, rolling stuff, and I just couldn't make the damn thing skip. Every other hub I've had, including a Chris King, has a had a bedding in period on the first few rides where its just skipped and skipped until everythings settled down. The Pro 2 just did not skip. The hub runs on four sets of pawls which is devided into two pairs. Whilst one pair is engaging, the other pair is effectively resting, and then takes up the slack as the other pair disengages. This is how the 24 pawl design (bigger pawls make for stronger hubs, but not as many can be fitted in so this usually means less engagements) is multiplied into 48 (hence the name: Pro 2; twice the engagements). It took me a while to figure out how the two pairs managed to engage at different times until I put the hub to my ear and span it very slowly. Any one who has a Pro 2 and has not noticed this, try it now. You get one loud click - thats effectively the master pawls engaging - and the next is slightly quieter, which is the small pair engaging. So when you spin it instead of just going click click click click click click click click , the Pro 2 goes click CLICK click CLICK click CLICK click CLICK. Havn't taken it apart yet to see it all working but from how Clive (Leeson) explained it thats how it works.My Pro 2 (I'm not sure about every other hub) is held in with funbolts from Hope. NOTE: The bolts issued with the current hubs are being replaced with better fitting bolts. From what I understood from Clive, the bolts are slightly smaller than the threads in the hub that the sit into. This isn't a problem as such because the difference in size is negligable and unnoticeable unless you go being really pedantic and go looking for it, but Hope apparantly are still going to send out replacement bolts for all hubs already purchased. APPARANTLY. Don't jump down my throat the second a Hope spokesman contradicts me as its just what I've been told, and the bolts issued on my Pro 2 certainly have the slight size difference.The hub also has one other nice design point, in that it builds into a totally dishless wheel. I've got mine built onto a Ronnie (from Tartybikes, cheers Dave) built up by Clive with DT spokes, and it's wierd, but I can actually feel the difference in how it rolls and feels. All in all, so far the hub is behaving like every other hub apart from the bedding in period thing, which is non-existent with the Pro 2. In reality no one is going to have a concise and accurate opinion on the hub for about another 8 months or so when any potential problems will most likely rear their head if there are any. I don't believe the Pro 2 is indistructable but I certainly think its something very special, but time will only tell how right or wrong I am. FINAL VERDICT: If you've bought one, good choice. If you havn't, what the hells wrong with you, go buy one. Essay over, sleep now. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Looks like hope are onto another winner. Btw, your rotor is on the wrong way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Btw, your rotor is on the wrong way round I thought something wasn't right. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Boy Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) I thought something wasn't right. RichHahaI'll probaly get one of these next month after i've saved up enough Edited February 18, 2006 by Trials Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Looks like hope are onto another winner. Btw, your rotor is on the wrong way round no it isnt! dont change it rich its the wrong way round for a front brake, which stops the wheel when its going forwards, but most of the forces on a rear brake are going the other way, making the way he as it now more suited....not that it REALLY makes any difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Actually, that is a (leeson modified)C2 rotor, and if you look at old hope manuals, they say put the rotor on that way round for C2, and all the old brakes. Its only when they brought out the mini that they changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 The hub runs on four sets of pawls which is devided into two pairs. Whilst one pair is engaging, the other pair is effectively resting, and then takes up the slack as the other pair disengages. This is how the 24 pawl design (bigger pawls make for stronger hubs, but not as many can be fitted in so this usually means less engagements) is multiplied into 48 (hence the name: Pro 2; twice the engagements). It took me a while to figure out how the two pairs managed to engage at different times until I put the hub to my ear and span it very slowly. Any one who has a Pro 2 and has not noticed this, try it now. You get one loud click - thats effectively the master pawls engaging - and the next is slightly quieter, which is the small pair engaging. So when you spin it instead of just going click click click click click click click click , the Pro 2 goes click CLICK click CLICK click CLICK click CLICK. Havn't taken it apart yet to see it all working but from how Clive (Leeson) explained it thats how it works.My Pro 2 (I'm not sure about every other hub) is held in with funbolts from Hope. NOTE: The bolts issued with the current hubs are being replaced with better fitting bolts. From what I understood from Clive, the bolts are slightly smaller than the threads in the hub that the sit into. This isn't a problem as such because the difference in size is negligable and unnoticeable unless you go being really pedantic and go looking for it, but Hope apparantly are still going to send out replacement bolts for all hubs already purchased. APPARANTLY. Don't jump down my throat the second a Hope spokesman contradicts me as its just what I've been told, and the bolts issued on my Pro 2 certainly have the slight size difference.The hub also has one other nice design point, in that it builds into a totally dishless wheel. I've got mine built onto a Ronnie (from Tartybikes, cheers Dave) built up by Clive with DT spokes, and it's wierd, but I can actually feel the difference in how it rolls and feels. Right well mine arrived this morning thnaks to the amazing service of those bike tart guys and the ROYAL MAIL (only ordered yesterday afternoon). And Ive got afew points to make 1. Ive opened it up and im pretty sure all the pawls are the same size - the system works because of the way the pawls are positioned - ie when the first pair (say top n bottom pair) is locked into the ratchet teeth, then the second left and right pair is positioned halfway up the ratchet upslope (cant think of a better description) either one in advance or one behind (in comparison to top and bottom) but exactly opposite each other.Right2. The new axle / bearing design looks good massively oversized compared to the mono and the bearing actually supports the hub right under the engagements (my only major gripe with the mono is snapping axles every 5 mins) fun bolts are awesome for a trials hub stiffens the back end up abit - and helps with the broken axle syndrome.3. the new seal is a bitch - that was awesome about the mono - being able to take it apart really really easy.... but this seal is more fiddly than engraving your name on a grain of rice. although having said that though it looks as if it may actually keep some muck out !!! so swings and roundabouts.4. I dont ever want to run another disc at the back so this hub is slightly frustrating5. they all are in 6 speed i believe (could be wrong there)Cant wait to get a build on oh and 6. They are basically only a few quid more than the old hubs.... take that CK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 have ad mine for 2 months and wouldnt look back to any other hub apart from probably my trusty mono's.Waynio.........................at least now more people will believe in what me and trialnoir were saying about them. as we have had ours alot longer than most. Trialnoir has had his like over 4/5 months with different types.Let the buying commence....................... Hope all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 *runs to try and break his xc so he can be a tart and buy one of these* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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