anzo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Click HereI just found this, a list of maximum fine for traffic offenses. Look at the cycling one, how the fecking hell can the police/courts fine 2,500 quid for dangerous cycling? What's dangerous cycling classed as? BMX, Trials?Its just a ridiculous fine, I know probably no-one ever gets a fine like that, but seriously? You get a less fine for driving with the WRONG license!For the fine of 'dangerous cycling' you could drive a car without a license or MOT without your seatbelt on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubert Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 cycling on pavement............do that constantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 ...but it's illigal to ride on the road without a seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Geary Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Preety stupid if you ask me Edited January 25, 2006 by Gears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoot Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Basically it means, f**king about where your not ment to, and carless cycling is just not looking where you are going etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_ferret Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 i got caught doing a really nice manual and i got a £40 spot fine if i didnt pay it there would have been nearer 100 oggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hardman Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Causing death by dangerous driving, 10 years. well thats a load of crap, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 i got caught doing a really nice manual and i got a £40 spot fine oggyOn what basis did they fine you? why did they consider it dangerous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 On what basis did they fine you? why did they consider it dangerous? At a guess I would say cycling on the pavement, no control over bike if some1 happened to step out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petit_pablo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 We got pulled over by an unmarked police car last week!I was sat on a wall and me mate was in the road lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hehehe we got caught by an unmarked for squirting old people out the window with a water pistol didnt get fined, the policeman was talking to my mates dad with the pink water pistol in his hand afterwards, waving it about, funny as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 how can someone get 6-8 points on their license, for driving without a license.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Click Here how the fecking hell can the police/courts fine 2,500 quid for dangerous cycling? Err, quite easily. Bikes arent the only thing on the road, dangerous cycling could very easily cause a car pile-up and end up killing more than a few people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 There like the max they can give you arnt they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Police officer: How old are you? Me: 15... Police officer: You should be on the road then! Me: Is this bike road legal? Police officer: erm...no... Me: Also, bikes that have 20" wheels and below should not be ridden on the roads Police officer: oh... seemed the best place to post that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Err, quite easily. Bikes arent the only thing on the road, dangerous cycling could very easily cause a car pile-up and end up killing more than a few people...I'm not arguing they shouldn't fine people, but WHY is it that much? When is cycling deemed 'dangerous' either on the road or off it?To Partz...how can someone get 6-8 points on their license, for driving without a license.... Its stays on records with the DVLA and will go onto your license as soon as you apply for it. A lad I know has 3 points for driving a £5 car (ad-mag) on the road without brakes. He crashed into the back of a van and did a runner...twat.There like the max they can give you arnt they?Yes, it is the maximum,but its still a big maximum. I agree the chance of actually getting £2,500 fines is slim to none. Unless you had no front wheel and welded your forks to the back of a van and then caused a crash...something like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'd want somebody to have more than 8 points and a £2.5k fine if they caused an accident that killed my family, and im sure you would too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street trials rider Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Failing to identify driver of a vehicle £1,000 how many people here can identify the person who drive the last bus you seen (for example) the crap us cyclists have to deal with compaired to a underage driver who does a hit and run on a trials rider (RIP DJ ) its f*****g ridiculus (sp) ---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'd want somebody to have more than 8 points and a £2.5k fine if they caused an accident that killed my family, and im sure you would tooWhat I'm saying is, where is it written that draws the line for safe and dangerous cycling? Everything we do is dangerous cycling, it breaks almost every rule in the highway code (to ride it on the road). The highway code is the only written 'guidance/law' to road safety, and always break that on our bikes.In basic terms, what I mean is that 'dangerous cycling' is very vague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Common sense decides that, the same as cars driving dangerously. Swerving, failing to stop at junctions, general dangerous stuff. Im sure that when they were written they didnt have trials and BMXing in mind.. theyre for 'cycling' not 'freestyle mountabike riding', which shouldnt be done on the road anyway, so youve got nothing to worry about. 'Dangerous driving' isnt really vague, anyone with common sense can determine if something is could cause a hazard, and especially a police officer/judge who has the final say in it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Speeding £1,000 (2,500 for motorway offences) i thought it would be a higher (or as high) for non-moterway speeding as its probably the 'best/safest' place to speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 (edited) I still think the most important issue here is that motoring affences need to be redifined and brought up-to-date.Specifically if you kill someone either by running them over or another perosn in a car or your car through dangerous driving. I see that as being classed as manslaughter. Though running someone over purposely should be treated as murder.Its hard seeing as we live in a society where the criminal has more rights than the victim.Motorways are dangerous becasue there are so many ejits that cant use them properly. Lefthand lane all the time, moving out if you need to overtake. Edited January 26, 2006 by Michael Hardman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Its hard seeing as we live in a society where the criminal has more rights than the victim.They don'tThey have the same rights as everybody else - until they're convicted. If it didnt work like that then you wouldn't be innocent until proven guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 They don'tThey have the same rights as everybody else - until they're convicted. If it didnt work like that then you wouldn't be innocent until proven guiltyI didnt mean it like that. I was really refering to say someone robbing your house and you go and stab them while their on your property stealing your stuff. They end up gettign away with it and the inocent house owner gets jailed for GBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I didnt mean it like that. I was really refering to say someone robbing your house and you go and stab them while their on your property stealing your stuff. They end up gettign away with it and the inocent house owner gets jailed for GBH.well yeah - which is the more serious crime? anyway thats all OT and likely to start a fight ... Where does it say a mod isn't road legal ? - the only legal definitions I could find for a bicycle say that it's a vehicle with 2 wheels and pedals. Anything official I could quote to plod would be much appreciated cos riding mine on the road scares crap out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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