PaRtZ Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 OK ha, bare with me this may be hard to explainBefore I re-linked the chain, the placing I had meant that the disc was pretty nice inside the caliper, but the chain would be a little bit slack. So (by accident) I discovered an easy, free and oddly reliable way of making the chain tighter:Stiff links.Because my chain has a couple of stiff links in it, the chain line is "longer" and takes up the slack. It doesn't skip or make any weird noises eitherclever? or have i not thought of something? if the atter please saythanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Surely when you pedal though, the stiff links straighten out - at least a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jones Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 It had about 4 stiff links when i put my chain on, bit of wd40 and about a week and they were all gone. sorry! ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 dont know WTF u are on about? And stiff links in a trials chain sounds like instant death to me.Re-think is in order.Gay post of the highest order.EDIT:Posting abilities suspended for 1 day, reason: flaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor the basher. Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 It would prob be a really good idear for mod riders, only short term though i excpect as the chain links will eventually come out of place but not for stock riders becuase the links would have to go throught the tentioner.If you could come up with a way of making it more long term it would be mint cheers conor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 why not botch a mech into a chain tentioner? you'll pull the links enough to take out the stiffness after a ride or two anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 what are u lot saying?think about it for a bit !!!!!!!!!!relying on stiff links....ive herd some stupid stuff but this one tops it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) It's not a terrible idea, but then again there are a fair few proper ways around it; fitting a tensioner stock style, adjustable disc mounts Ciguena style, well positioned disc mounts (so the caliper sits directly at the top of the rotor so small horizontal movement doesn't matter, and the easiest one probably being make sure your chain is the right length.Mod rear ends aren't mostly 362mm for no reason, its a length at which the axle will sit comfortably with 18-12t gearing and a good condition chain. Meaning if you have 18-12 tooth gearing and the rear end isn't 362mm, then you've either got the wrong number of links in your chain (although that would throw it out more like 10mm) or it's new chain time as yours is stretched .Edit: Yeah, relying on stiff links is a bad idea. Stiffness means binding where there shouldn't be binding, as all the components of a chain are metal that means a stiff link means metal on metal binding, which means accelerated wear, which means shortened chain life, which means shortened front teeth life. Edited April 28, 2007 by Dont you Just Hate it When... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) what are u lot saying?think about it for a bit !!!!!!!!!!relying on stiff links....ive herd some stupid stuff but this one tops it. do you want to actually think about what you're saying here instead of just critisizing without reason? so far its calum ^^ whos managed to find a reason why its a bad idea but ffs all you've done is just said "yep its crap idea" brains *** EDIT: And for a start I didn't plan this it just happened, and just so happens to help a bit by shortening the chain a few mm so it doesn't slap etc. Edited April 28, 2007 by PaRtZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Whos calum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 ..i don't know. i got you mixed up with "has anyone seen my shoe" because you both have long forum namessorry lol :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Haha, no worries, I keep meaning to get mine changed to Robin, would make a lot more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 do you want to actually think about what you're saying here instead of just critisizing without reason? so far its calum ^^ whos managed to find a reason why its a bad idea but ffs all you've done is just said "yep its crap idea" brains *** EDIT: And for a start I didn't plan this it just happened, and just so happens to help a bit by shortening the chain a few mm so it doesn't slap etc.Sorry dude , but u realy need to explain ( with pictures ) what u mean. Cause im confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 OK the grey line is normal chain running, the red line is a stiff link. because the stiff link goes up, it bunches the chain a bit, bringing the two links either side of the stiff link, closer together, meaning the chain is tighter. Because the stiff link takes the shape of the last cog its been round there will always be a bit of a shape (if its stiff enough)best I can do sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) It's clever due to it's simplicity but surely it must have it's downsides. My brain has already gone to sleep so I'll ask for it's opinion tomorrow morning. BTW, that pic you posted should be upside down. Stiff links are straightened on the "top" chain. Edited April 28, 2007 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat-trials Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 But surely as soon as the chain has tension through it the chain will straighten itself out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam-pantera Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 if the idea works then great but eventualy they will become lose again i think the best option it to make a mod tensioner like i did il get a pic later , wich will press the chain down giving u perfect tension . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 well so far my chains been like this for a few weeks lolif i squeeze the two lines together it straightens it out and becomes loose, but as soon as it goes round a cog it kinks and becomes tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) ok gotta say chris is right even though he hasnt put a reason i dont think he needs to. think about what you making the chain do, its gonna wear a fair bit quicker and its gonna snap pretty soon. chain links are designed to move freely and smoothly if they dont something is wrong!!! i'd get some good dental insurance because the nhs wont be able to sort out the mess when it does snap! you ride a mod? got snail cams? maybe a small cost but there is a very good reason people run them and not suing stiff links to tension a chain Edited April 29, 2007 by curly_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 i'd get some good dental insurance because the nhs wont be able to sort out the mess when it does snap! ok ok ill sort it aht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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