BenLeacock™ Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 (edited) Do you think it matters how light the bike is ?? Does it ride better ? Ben Edited May 6, 2007 by benleacock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koxx nev Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Do you think it matters how light the bike is ?? Does it ride better ? Benhi mate i ride an xtp and thats quite like but i dont think it matters as much as how long the bike is. i think a long bike rides better cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 hi mate i ride an xtp and thats quite like but i dont think it matters as much as how long the bike is. i think a long bike rides better cheers Thats a good point, but geometry and components effect the feel of a bike aswell, most well built trials bikes are light, my pitbull is quite light but with lightness comes the strength factor, strength or light? although strong can be light aswell, obviously more expensive bikes tend to be lighter to. Back to your point though, i think if your a good rider you could ride most bikes well, heavy or not. Ben G WST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Thats a good point, but geometry and components effect the feel of a bike aswell, most well built trials bikes are light, my pitbull is quite light but with lightness comes the strength factor, strength or light? although strong can be light aswell, obviously more expensive bikes tend to be lighter to. Back to your point though, i think if your a good rider you could ride most bikes well, heavy or not. Ben G WSTTrue but abit back now there was a topic about removing paint. There is not that much of a need on a trials bike to remove the paint to make it lighter is there ? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 well to be honest my front end on my STOCK feels lighter than my mates monty TI work that out hes got carbon spacers and ti forks and ti spokes/nipples but my bike prob weighs around the same as a ti which im happy with weight does play a big part in this game i find it much easier to get up things with the bike i have now than my old onza t rex (a tank)but if you just do simple things like swap your dh tube for a skinny one or change your cassette to a single speed or rear mech to a tensioner you will notice the differencei think if you have a light front end and the rear that little bit heavier than the front you got it sorted imo because when you drop and that yo obviously want the rear end to lande firsthope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 well to be honest my front end on my STOCK feels lighter than my mates monty TI work that out hes got carbon spacers and ti forks and ti spokes/nipples but my bike prob weighs around the same as a ti which im happy with weight does play a big part in this game i find it much easier to get up things with the bike i have now than my old onza t rex (a tank)but if you just do simple things like swap your dh tube for a skinny one or change your cassette to a single speed or rear mech to a tensioner you will notice the differencei think if you have a light front end and the rear that little bit heavier than the front you got it sorted imo because when you drop and that yo obviously want the rear end to lande firsthope this helpsYer it does thanks, i always woundered what people do to make things lighter Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 i think if you have a light front end and the rear that little bit heavier than the front you got it sorted imo because when you drop and that yo obviously want the rear end to lande firstYou can also do that by moving your arms/legs, no need to put sand in the rear wheel Lightest mod is probably the 221Ti, lightest stock - V-Racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 You can also do that by moving your arms/legs, no need to put sand in the rear wheel Lightest mod is probably the 221Ti, lightest stock - V-Racing?Yer i agree with the lightest bikes, moving arms and legs also helps but if you have a lighter front then it will also help Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam-cahill Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 well to be honest my front end on my STOCK feels lighter than my mates monty TI work that out hes got carbon spacers and ti forks and ti spokes/nipples but my bike prob weighs around the same as a ti which im happy with weight does play a big part in this game i find it much easier to get up things with the bike i have now than my old onza t rex (a tank)but if you just do simple things like swap your dh tube for a skinny one or change your cassette to a single speed or rear mech to a tensioner you will notice the differencei think if you have a light front end and the rear that little bit heavier than the front you got it sorted imo because when you drop and that yo obviously want the rear end to lande firsthope this helpsShould'nt realy say this since i ride a monty but i have found that they are light but things break on them alot. I have a 221pr and like it but its cost me so much money and nearly every one wih a Ti i no has snapped there forks. Other than that they are brilliant light bikes. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty boi Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Should'nt realy say this since i ride a monty but i have found that they are light but things break on them alot. I have a 221pr and like it but its cost me so much money and nearly every one wih a Ti i no has snapped there forks. Other than that they are brilliant light bikes. SamWhat i dont understand is you say most people snap there ti forks, yet people like javi alonso etc have not snaped there forks, and they will be doing bigger moves, i havnt snapped mine yet Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 im not sayin that montys are crap and that, there very nice bikes to ride and all but i do think matt bird has cracked his forks on his monty ti i just wouldnt have a monty as im so tall its like a monkey bike for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 What i dont understand is you say most people snap there ti forks, yet people like javi alonso etc have not snaped there forks, and they will be doing bigger moves, i havnt snapped mine yet Adam.they get new forks whenever they need them - probably before every comp. and they'll most likely have specific bikes for practice and comp riding. just cos a pro runs something and does big moves doesn't make it strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I personally think that a lighter bike only really makes a big difference in comps. On streety stuff it really shouldn't matter how light the bike is (within reason) and in fact a slightly heavier bike ought to equate to a bit more material and hence strength and lifespan. However in comps where you're going to be hauling the bike around in 2 minute sections all day then you will of course use less energy chucking a light bike around than a heavy one. Having said that, a good technique will also mean using less energy used.I ride local comps and the occasional national and am perfectly happy lugging round my 221Pr rather than a Ti because I ride the bike on street and practicing in between and don't plan to change bikes every 5 minutes!Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hows about the old T-Comp, my friend has one and it weighs hardly anything, but I don't know if its any lighter than a Ti.I found out how light a Ti was when I had the lucky job of passing Matt's over a fench, god it was so easy due to the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_PRO Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 My T-lite feels light, compared to my T-pro that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 True but abit back now there was a topic about removing paint. There is not that much of a need on a trials bike to remove the paint to make it lighter is there ? Ben wots that got to do with what i said???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 wots that got to do with what i said????Nothing i just wanted to be polite by replying that i agree with you then stating another fact Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nothing i just wanted to be polite by replying that i agree with you then stating another fact Ben fair enuf. trials riders are to showy though, so sometimes appearence is more important than weight to some riders, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 fair enuf. trials riders are to showy though, so sometimes appearence is more important than weight to some riders, lol.Yer i have seen that, but havin a bike that looks nice is better than a bike that looks scratty if it rides nice Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Yer i have seen that, but havin a bike that looks nice is better than a bike that looks scratty if it rides nice Ben yeah thats tru, but just havin a bike that works is ussually half the battle, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 yeah thats tru, but just havin a bike that works is ussually half the battle, lolYer i suppose it doesnt really matter what your bike looks like if it feels nice Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod Man Leo Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 how light is the LIGHTEST mod frame? I rekon ether ye olde T-Comp or 221 TI or XTP?I dont know, someone enlighten me!! (get it )Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_malcolm Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 i personally dont think that a lighter bike neciseraly rides betteri personally prefere riding shorter bikes and weight doesnt bother be as my bmx is a bit of a brickwich is why im looking for a shorter frame for my next trials bike because i think my t-pro is an ok weight but its so long for my liking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 i personally dont think that a lighter bike neciseraly rides betteri personally prefere riding shorter bikes and weight doesnt bother be as my bmx is a bit of a brickwich is why im looking for a shorter frame for my next trials bike because i think my t-pro is an ok weight but its so long for my liking you need a monty then, 221 or summit, 1000mm wheelbase if i'm right, v short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtradan Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Triton Gazza, this is one insanely light bike, fully titanium and you can get them built to your own spec. My mate had one made a few months back and it rides awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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